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County gives up legal battle against C&D landfill

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Walter Geiger
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Wednesday, January 13. 2010
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Faced with multiple adverse court rulings, mounting legal costs and the ominous threat of the imposition of monetary damages, the Lamar County commission voted 3-2 Tuesday night to give up its legal battle against E.T. Carlyle Company's effort to locate an unlined construction and demolition landfill on 312 acres off High Falls Park and Possum Trot roads in northeast Lamar County.

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#1 Anonymous on 01/13/10 at 07:04 AM
Is this what our forefathers envisioned with the three branches of government?
#2 anonymous on 01/13/10 at 07:24 AM
WHAT????
#3 Anonymous on 01/13/10 at 07:54 AM
When in doubt give up huh. Ya know this is what my tax dollars pays for. If it means continue fighting it in court THEN DO IT!
#4 anonymous on 01/13/10 at 08:05 AM
From what I have heard the commissioners have fought this in Court all the way to the Supreme Court - what do you want them to do stand on the Courthouse stairs and waive flags saying "we are fighting" there is nowhere for them to go. I don't want my tax dollars wasted on something that it is clear we have lost. And if they raise my taxes over this I think they will have a mutiny. If those commissioners had not had that closed door meeting, we would not be in this position
#5 WTH on 01/13/10 at 08:37 AM
I'd rather pay a few dollars than have my future grandkids born with 3 ears! Our health is more important than our wallet! UNLINED!?!? UNBELIEVABLE!!!
#5.1 Anonymous on 01/13/10 at 09:39 AM
UNLINED - Yes
UNBELIEVABLE - Not really, considering our haphazard zoning regulations allowed this in the first place
#6 Anonymous on 01/13/10 at 08:40 AM
Have the commissioners taken into consideration that the road in and out of the landfill is located on a bad curve on High Falls Rd.
I hope ET Carlyle is ready to pay out the rear when someone wrecks and gets killed there.
I just hope it's not one of the school buses that run in the area.
#7 One call, that's all. on 01/13/10 at 09:14 AM
It is very unlikely anyone could win a case against Carlyle for an accident on a public road unless it was a Carlyle vehicle at fault.

They would be much more likely to win a suit against the country. That's who Ken would sue.
#8 Anonymous on 01/13/10 at 11:16 AM
Had the previous Commissioners, as in Kent, Nancy Giles, Ray, Royce, etc had put real zoning in place, this would have never happened. Mr. Queen said it best last night that these developers were going around the state looking at weak zoning and taking advantage of it. So Kent, you can share in the blame as to why we are here today.
#9 Anonymous on 01/13/10 at 12:00 PM
What about jobs cut? Lamar County jail cut and Lamar County Public Safety "E911" cut.
#10 Anonymous on 01/13/10 at 12:43 PM
Kent K.... Absolutely I accept any and all blame anyone wants to assign to me. That was in large measure why I was at the meeting last night and spoke. I can't change history, I was just hoping our county would not repeat the mistakes it had made in the past.

If you have anger, then besides that which is my fair share I suggest you direct your anger at the unelected judge with serious personal flaws that rezoned property from the bench. He obviously dislikes his former home with a passion as his actions demonstrate.

I end with a quote from Teddy Roosevelt " Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy or suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory or defeat."
#11 Anonymous on 01/13/10 at 03:24 PM
#4 wrote - If those commissioners had not had that closed door meeting, we would not be in this position

Can you elaborate on this?
#12 Tom Rauch on 01/13/10 at 03:58 PM
Have zoning laws and planning been corrected to stop this problem in the future?
#12.1 lizzybegood on 01/13/10 at 10:24 PM
Great question. Lamar Co. needs to do a bit of forward planning.

Here's hoping that the EPD shuts C&D's efforts down.

Shame on Byron Smith -- if Kent's allegations are true.
#13 Anonymous on 01/13/10 at 09:24 PM
One thing that needs to be investigated is the ties to the people who are connected with E. T. Carlyle and the judges that made these poor decisions.
#14 Anonymous on 01/14/10 at 03:07 AM
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The battle dates back to June 2001 when Carlyle first filed an application for a special exception to site the facility. That came after the firm went throughout Georgia, studying zoning ordinances and targeting counties where such landfills were not specifically prohibited under zoning and solid waste ordinances, according to water quality activist Bud Queen.

Over that period, the county has expended about $100,000 in legal fees and could have to pay the legal expenses incurred by Carlyle in addition to damages sought by the firm for delaying its project and diminishing potential earnings."

Before pointing the finger at the judge and everyone else has Lamar County fixed this problem yet?
#15 anonymous on 01/14/10 at 07:20 AM
yes, they have
#16 Sheila Tolley on 01/14/10 at 11:22 AM
Please take my advice, if you live near this future dump. Have your water analyzed now. Save the report. Have it analyzed again after it is toxic infested and the health challenged children are born. You can lead the lawsuit with some facts then. You will have cancer rates in old and young on the rise.
#17 GM on 01/14/10 at 10:14 PM
In my opinion no real leader is going to allow any company to move a business in the county against the wishes of the people, with the intent of the company to profit, while possibly causing grave damage to the environment and even causing future health problems to their citizens.
#18 catlady on 01/16/10 at 12:27 PM
As I have said before: It is amazing what and who big money and unethical judges and politicians can buy. I truly believe the present Commissioners fought hard for the citizens of the area involved. That is more than I can say for the previous Commissioners, regardless of what Mr. Kingsley says.
For those of us on Possum Trot Road and High Falls Park Road, Carlyle should go ahead and buy up our land seeing how they will eventually ruin it as they have now destined our property values and water supply to be ruined. I will be more than glad to sell them my place. It is so close to where they initally said the first cell would be; it will most likely be just about in my front yard. At least from the raping of the land they have been doing, it certainly looks that way. Let one of them live there; oh, wait a minute. I forgot the Possum Trot Road area is not upscale enough for the likes of the people connected with Carlyle and their cohorts. Wonder how any of them sleep at night. What goes around comes around. I hope we all live to see them punished severely for their lack of ethics.
Oh, one other thing. Thanks for the suggestion of getting our water tested now and keeping the report for later. Good idea. Maybe through the sacrifices of the residents and future residents, WE can have something to do with Carlyle's punishment. But what a sacrifice.
God bless us and keep an extra special close watch on us all.
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