But, if one has already made the untimely pregnancy boo boo, where would one find a part time job in our little town to try to avoid getting that check and become self sufficient? A teen with college dreams and real goals that is.
I was married when I had my son, who was unplanned, my husband at the time didn't work, and had a drug problem. When I became pregnant I kicked him out, got a divorce, and made it on my own. I got no government assistance because at being paid $10 an hour I made way too much. I received the pell and hope grant, I put myself back in school with a full time job, paying all my own bills and daycare for my son. It wasn't easy, I even worked an extra job on the weekends to make ends meet, there wasn't money to "get my nails, toes, & hair done" or to have a new car, or even looking for a man, but that wasn't important. I set out to give my child more, and I now have an associated degree in business, working on my second degree in healthcare. In putting my needs second to my child I now have more than I've ever had, including the best husband in the world. It's possible as long as you have your priorities straight, and a positive attitude to go with it.
I see no race card being thrown in this article. And know for a fact that there are all races working the system for that damn check they did not earn. I'm just sayin'.
Seems like the ones getting a check are smarter than the ones that elect politicians into office and watch their hard earned tax dollars being given to a system that the politicians perpetuate...Sounds like lunacy to me.
It is the same article post in a timely fashion each year. I do agree that children having children is the source of most of our social problems in this country. The fact that they are getting a check is hardly something you can blame them for considering they are a product of culture we all helped to create. Change one’s self identity and all else will change with it. If one is discretely considered to be less than they will then come to believe it themselves. All begins with thought. Doing the right thing for the wrong reason accomplishes nothing.
There is no excuse for the level of teen pregnancy we're seeing these days. Our society has been so carefully PC that we have stripped away the shame that was once associated with bearing children out of wedlock. Add to that how hard our government works to reward such idiotic behavior and we have a national crisis on our hands.
I know several good adoption agencies who would be more than happy to find loving, committed TWO PARENT homes for babies born to teen mothers. I'd much rather see that happen that keep on paying for some other person's illegitimate children.
Be smart and responsible or pay the price. As a community, we need to refuse to keep paying these welfare mothers to churn out kids.
As long as we keep subsidizing this lifestyle, things are just going to get worse.
I stood behind a mother with 5 children under the age of 5 in line at the grocery store the other day for about 15 minutes while she made the cashier go line by line on her bill to see why her EBT card didn't pay for all of her groceries. It happened to be 2 mega packs of gum she was trying to buy to stick in her babies mouth and eventually rot their teeth (that by the way, the tax payers would pay to have fixed). She made the biggest scene about how she couldn't believe her food stamps wouldn't pay for her babies' gum!! PLEEEEASE!!!
I work at a grocery store and did you know Food stamps pays for a bag of ice too!!!!this is just crazy, and the ones that come in my line have designer purses, clothes, and nice cars. I understand that some people really do need the support but not everyone. i talked to a friend that has a food stamp card and they explained to me that they lied on the application about how many people live in the house hold and their income. i Think this should be investigated!!!!!! i have had a customer complain about not enough taxes being taken off the total price, what the crap your damn food is already paid for STUPID!!! and the young girls having babies need to realize your still a CHILD yourself!!!
I had to have help, ( we are a white family) It was hard enough to swallow my pride and go ask for help, it was not easy, I had to show everything, pay stubs, house payment records, bank statements, s.s. cards, birth certificates, tax records even had to go get my tag receipt to show my car was worth $1,200.00! It took me 3.5 months before I finally proved I needed help, It was the hardest thing I had ever done mentally! Thank God, we no longer need help and I pray that we don't have to go thru that again, I just don't see how some people can lie and get away with it, unless they are getting paid under the table or something!
I once had a student who was the most naturally gifted athlete I have ever seen. She had to work in the classroom, but that didn't bother her and she had such a good attitude.
Her mother stopped by my office on the student's last day of fifth grade to thank me for helping the young girl.
When I asked where the child was going to go to middle school the mom replied..'up the hill, but I'm just waiting till she turns 15 so she can get her baby and start getting her check.' I kept her there for over an hour trying to convince her differently - that there was a different future in store... I also talked to the girl and refered her to the counselor. Called the middle school teachers and coaches to alert them to her... what do you think happened? Hint -Not a happy ending.
ARE YOU PEOPLE SERIOUS? Anyone who is dumb enough to lay on their back to get pregnant just to recieve a 800.00 a month welfare check deserve to live in poverty. It is just unfortunately their children suffer and grow up with the same mentality WHAT A SHAME! However,BOTH RACES HAS THIS PROBLEM IN WHICH WE AS A SOCIETY NEED TO FIX AS A WHOLE.IF YOU ARE ABLE TO WORK GO TO WORK BECAUSE IT IS PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT CANT AND REALLY NEED THAT HELP!
Well this is a time I disagree with you.
Sometimes when you are young and you do things that are mistakes, and the assistance is needed. Not that I was ever looking for a check but I got pregnant at an early age and was receiving medicate and wic and probably would have starved if not for it. I never received a check but isn’t that what we as Americans should do is help out in a time that is needed for are fellow Americas??? It's Not every skimpy dressed young woman’s dream to get a check or to get pregnant. But I believe having a child made me to strive for better for myself and my child. I have probably paid back into the system 10 times to pay for the low life losers that keep spitting out children this is what we should be concerned with.... I have a friend that will not work because the food stamps she receives are more than what a job would pay. That we as Americas are paying for!! I believe that there should be a CAP on how many children that receives these benefits, and woman should get their tubes tide after the 2nd government funded child. I guess what really pisses me off is all the money we spend everywhere else and then people fuss about helping at home but this would help people not to have more and more children if there is a Cap. Knowing that the more childeren they have the more money they can make off of us. How much money have we spent on war? How about Foreign aid, like 23.5 billon, I am just saying some people need this sometimes….. Pennies to the politicians that run this place.
A woman who has a child and not married should be required to name the father and have it proved by DNA before receiving any government funds. I am for the child having what is needed but it takes two to reproduce and there are too many good for nothing sperm donors taking advantage of young girls with low self confidence. They just walk away exspecting society to pick up the bill.
You can put them behind bars if not owning up to their responsibility. To bring a child into this world and following through with the those responsibilities required to bring that child to young adulthood is the most serious of all responsibilities in one's life.
"Sometimes" being the key word. I don't think anyone on this blog would have a problem helping someone "sometimes." The problem here is the "all the time" help that is being provided to able-bodied people who won't work because they have it better getting their free check than working for minimum wage at McDonalds.
my wife and i were behind a couple in griffin a fews years back in the winn dixie. they paid for five buggies of groceries with food stamps. The older guy went out to get the car... your guessed it a fine volvo station wagon..we followed them... they then went to the dry cleaners and picked up
their clothes and handed the cashier one hundred and fifty bucks... they then went to the liquor store at sunnyside and the cashier already had their order boxed up....i snuck in and got one beer and observed him pay over two hundred dollars for fine liquor.... we followed them home and hey drove to fayette county. They pulled up to a fine home and grandma in an apron ran out with five small kids to help unload the volvo. Found out later the grandma was a hired domestic help. As i went to fayettevile on business serveral years later i drove by the house a realter guy was in the yard and i asked about the family...he said the lady worked for the state at the employment office in griffin and the husband worked for the spalding mental health board...they had never made a house payment since he sold them the house... it took five years to get them out. he was a professional squatter... they now live in a condo in fairburn and i have to tear down this house and sell the lot because they did so much damage to it i cannot have it insured...there is a word for people like this.
I've admitted I have my own prejudices. We all do. The problem is when you let those prejudices determine the outcome of situations. Profiling is very useful. It tells you a lot about people. He still stalked someone which is kind of creepy. That's profiling too.
Society as a whole should shun these people. I work with two people who get paid more than I do, and guess what they receive food stamps. They not only pay for their meals at the store with food stamps but are proud to do it. This just makes me ill because I know for a fact that they get paid more than I do and yet I still can't buy groceries because they get my hard earned tax dollars. Not only does one get food stamps but her husband works under the table makes about four hundred if not more a week and then he also gets unemployment. This injustice should be investigated. And they should be made to refund all the money that they get. It is time for the middle classed people to take a stand a say "ENOUGH IS ENOUGH". I also know of a family that has played the DEFACS workers so much that it has become a way of life and the grandchildren are riding the same bandwagon. My son has had to move back in with us he works hard at home and the neighborhood and holds down a regular job. Then at the end of the week what he has made goes to pay child support. Now I am not saying that he should not have to pay child support but she is now getting full disability the children get a check and he still has to do without. NO JUSTICE THERE!!!!
What ever happened to parents that taught self respect and disipline to allow the young girls and boys to just go out and lay around with every person they come in contact with, make a baby and jump on the welefare train. I agree with one of the bloggers about the mothers, that they should have to name every man they slept with and then have everyone of them take a DNA test if they are the father then go after them to pay child support instead of making the taxpayer foot the bill for their mistake. Birth control is available YOU SHOULD USE IT!!! or pay the consequences.
Everyone knows all the corruption of people abusing this system. The thing is, HOW can it be STOPPED?? WHAT can WE do? I KNOW that the people working for DFACS *KNOWS* what is going on and lets it happen. But WHY?? Are they THAT scared of these sorry people ?? If DFACS would put their foot down and REFUSE this crap, what would happen? Would the sorry people SUE them?? How do WE get DFACS to DO this? After all, they are doing this with OUR money! And, WE are PAYING their salaries !!
maybe thats it,were paying thier salary.i suspect that if they cut out the corruption,and only supported the truly needy,then we wouldnt need as many case workers.
Agree, seen a DEAC'S worker talking to a lady about her "Appointment for food stamps" at the nail place while the little one was running around and she had her hair did, nails done and getting her feet done! Guess she was going shopping next.
17 Anonymous on 07/22/10 at 01:06 PM [Reply]
we could cut the federal debt in half if not more if they would over haul the welfare system. >>>
You don't know what you are talking about.
All social programs amount to 35% of the GDP. The largest share of that by far is social security and Medicaid. About 5-10% is private. If you cut off all the welfare checks you would get rid of 10% of the burden compared to our GDP.
Welfare benefits adjusted to GDP have been on a steady decline since the late 70's except for a little peak late in Reagan's term.
This is all documented fact that anyone can check and confirm.
It will probably go up now because of the recession that started toward the end of Bush's term, and continued and peaked shortly after Obama took office.
The thing killing us is foreign spending for consumer goods, and the two "wars" we started and all the increases in security while giving tax cuts to people earning over $200K a year.
Welfare was reformed during the Clinton Administration. Remember, President Clinton said the era of big government is over? Welfare is over as we know it. A law was passed that put an end to the practice of the Federal government giving states more money for the more people enrolled in welfare. With the States not encouraged to have more welfare enrollees, the number of people on welfare dropped significantly. President Obama ended President Clinton's welfare reform with an Executive Order during his first few days in office.
Do you mean Obama ended the reforms after first coming into office after ponzi schemers and wall street crooks gambled our nation into debt and caused a massive amount of people to lose their jobs and pensions? Meanwhile, these same crooks are still running banks and getting billions in bonuses. People love that money.
I posted #16. I have always thought DFACS won't stop people from abusing the system, they are scared NAACP would jump on them. Not to say blacks are the ONLY ones, some of all races do. I do believe blacks are the majority, especially in GA.
A friend I know (white) got welfare for a few months, she NEEDED it and was NOT abusing the system. She reported the 2 part time jobs she had. Someone with DFACS 'misplaced' one of her reports and sent a letter to her saying they never got this report and was trying to make her pay back the money they already sent her.
She wrote back and explained that this was NOT her fault and ignored their letters and they finally stopped sending them to her.
we cant punish a child because her mom is not working....i can see not giving a person who want work a check...but you cant withhold that check if she is responsible for feeding a family.....get real we are a christian nation and cant let people starve just because they are poor and cant work...if we can afford to send food to africa and can afford to kill people in middle east; we can afford to feed and clothe our own people
They can and do. All they have to do is squeeze out some babies while here. I know of one illegal who invented several fake kids and got SS cards and while making $15 an hour was getting all kinds of perks for his fictitious kids. When he got caught he got another fake ID and had another fake family and repeated. US citizens can't do that because they have real SS numbers.
I know this sounds old fashion, but back in my day if a girl or woman became pregnant, society did not foot the bill like today. Either the church or the parents had to take up the slack--(Not the tax payer ). This would never be herd of, or stood for .
If we go back to that behavior maybe a lot of the parents would start getting involved in their children's lives instead of relying on someone to do it for them. I'll bet you if you cut off the free money, and the girls know there will be no tax payer funds, this stupidity will slow way, way down. The final decision rest with the girl to say no, or you will use a contraceptive. Their call unless of rape, and that changes the picture---nothing else
While you people are sitting here talking about all the "bad" teen parents out there why not stop to consider that there are teen parents out there who get pregnant and take care of their child without any help! I became a single teen mother and have yet to need help from the government! I finished high school and I am going to college to provide a better life for my child. I DON'T want to depend on anyone else to support my child. It blows my mind how people only want to see the bad in everything, and never take a second glance to see the good! I agree there is a problem with teen pregancy, but not all of them get pregnant to recieve a check!
Congrats to you. You are an example of someone rare. You are not the type person I am referring to. The ones that do this and expect someone else to provide for them, and not to depend on their own self. Those are the ones that are the drain on society.
Remember there are exceptions to each and every rule.
Yes, but you have to admit that you really messed up. You and your child are going to pay an enormous price for an ill responsible mistake that is made all too often. I am sure you will do your best to fulfill your parental responsibilities but a single parent household can only do so much. We as tax payers will directly and indirectly be required to make up at least some of the difference if it is possible. What I do know is a child that has two responsible parents has a much greater fighting chance to make it in this world that one that doesn’t. Secondly, fathers should be held financially accountable and measures should be made to insure that it happens. This is not being done!
I admit, I messed up. However my child is NOT a mistake! Something is only a mistake if you do not learn from it! And I have learned,alot. And for you to sit here and tell me that my child will not have a fighting chance to make it in this world is a load of CRAP!! He may not have his "father" in his life but he has PLENTY of other people that love and care for him, and are teaching him right from wrong! I know may of people who were raised in a single parent home and have turned out just fine! Now I do wish my child's father was here for him, yes, but I know he is better off without him!! Maybe you should know the entire situation before you start assuming in someone elses life!
Listen lady, I raised two myself and they have grown to make me proud so I know what it takes.
I am not saying your child doesn't have a chance but the numbers easily show the odds are against it and not only that within the last few decades, unless you are born into money thae chances of living the American dream is rapidly fading away. That being said, a child needs every resource available and that means what two parents can give. Some times love is not enough.
Having a child IS a mistake if you did not plan for it. There are plenty of birth control methods available if you do want a child just because your hormones kick in and you can't control your self at least use protection.
I'm 55 years old and have never gotten any assistance in my life. There were times when I had one full time and 2 part time jobs just to support myself and my cat, and my cat ate better than I did.
My first child was born 6 days before my 30th birthday and my 2nd and last child was born when I was 32. I've been happily married for 26 years.
I grew up dirt poor and passed from relative to relative. All I ever thought was this- "as soon as I'm 18, I will never ever be in a situation I can't control again."
Take control of your lives, people. You don't have to be held down if you believe in yourself and your abilities.
I can think of nothing better than knowing I have launched 2 more successful human beings into the world, and that I wake up daily and know I can made my own destiny.
It is great that the assistance is there if/when you really need it. It is not a way of life, it should be used as temporary help. There is no shame in temporary help.
Sure thats a great idea but it dont work. Too many people like the mother Jeannie Garcia was refering to. Its a way of life to a lotta families. To them $800.00 a month is pretty good money for doing nuthin except eating, getting high and working on more babies. They will live (stay) in a dump but have a nice ride. And they are laughing at all the stupid people who work for a living.
Walter Geiger, you are too funny. You start out the story with my friend that happens to be black then go on and attack a race of people in the name of my friend that happens to be black. That is the oldest trick in the book. I have always been leery of a man that try to hide his racism behind the saying (I have black friends). In Barnesville that may work due to the lack of exposure and the level of education on its citizens. On a national level, your work will be seen as racist and you as a bigot. I read this paper everyday via the Internet. I do not live in Barnesville however, I use to work in Griffin. Everything that you give your opinion on suggest that minorities are a bunch of freeloader and just wants a free ride. I would just like to say to you, please explore people of all groups with a open mind. Stop spreading the ignorance to the people of Barnesville. I believe a good story would have been about the tea-party slandering the African American woman that father was killed by the gun of a white farmer and she live her life helping those who took her father's life from her. Her being daddy's little girl was taken from her. That's news not the garbage you write about slandering a group of people and spreading your bigotry. Please consider this suggestion. It may due your country that you say you love so much some good, the citizens of barnesville and this wonderful country that I have served proudly for 24 years of military service. Thanks
The problem is White people in rural Georgia do not come into contact with very many black people who have become successful and have an advanced education. So many Black people who do make something of themselves get the heck out of rural Georgia because of the all too common mindset of the middle-upper class whites. Many successful black people move out of rural Georgia because they don’t want to be reminded of where they came from or are upset with those who don’t apply themselves. Probably one of the main reasons they leave is so they can get a decent job and to do that they have to go where the jobs are. As you know, it isn’t in Barnesville.
I look at Barnesville and there is absolutely no reason Black people must live on one side of the tracks and whites on the other. But it’s still that way now, and has been for countless generations. What has changes is that poor whites have moved across the tracks because of the need for economical housing. It does seem when a Black person does becomes successful in rural Georgia people line up to try to take them down. I have had a technical position with a hi-tech manufacturer for over 30 years. I once told a friend I didn’t share his social views on black people because I have meet too many that were much smarter than I am. He gave me a look of bewilderment. I try to look past some folk’s point of view because many came by it honestly. They know nothing different. I have faith things will change, but it may not be in my life time.
But, if one has already made the untimely pregnancy boo boo, where would one find a part time job in our little town to try to avoid getting that check and become self sufficient? A teen with college dreams and real goals that is.
I know several good adoption agencies who would be more than happy to find loving, committed TWO PARENT homes for babies born to teen mothers. I'd much rather see that happen that keep on paying for some other person's illegitimate children.
Be smart and responsible or pay the price. As a community, we need to refuse to keep paying these welfare mothers to churn out kids.
As long as we keep subsidizing this lifestyle, things are just going to get worse.
Her mother stopped by my office on the student's last day of fifth grade to thank me for helping the young girl.
When I asked where the child was going to go to middle school the mom replied..'up the hill, but I'm just waiting till she turns 15 so she can get her baby and start getting her check.' I kept her there for over an hour trying to convince her differently - that there was a different future in store... I also talked to the girl and refered her to the counselor. Called the middle school teachers and coaches to alert them to her... what do you think happened? Hint -Not a happy ending.
Sometimes when you are young and you do things that are mistakes, and the assistance is needed. Not that I was ever looking for a check but I got pregnant at an early age and was receiving medicate and wic and probably would have starved if not for it. I never received a check but isn’t that what we as Americans should do is help out in a time that is needed for are fellow Americas??? It's Not every skimpy dressed young woman’s dream to get a check or to get pregnant. But I believe having a child made me to strive for better for myself and my child. I have probably paid back into the system 10 times to pay for the low life losers that keep spitting out children this is what we should be concerned with.... I have a friend that will not work because the food stamps she receives are more than what a job would pay. That we as Americas are paying for!! I believe that there should be a CAP on how many children that receives these benefits, and woman should get their tubes tide after the 2nd government funded child. I guess what really pisses me off is all the money we spend everywhere else and then people fuss about helping at home but this would help people not to have more and more children if there is a Cap. Knowing that the more childeren they have the more money they can make off of us. How much money have we spent on war? How about Foreign aid, like 23.5 billon, I am just saying some people need this sometimes….. Pennies to the politicians that run this place.
"Sometimes" being the key word. I don't think anyone on this blog would have a problem helping someone "sometimes." The problem here is the "all the time" help that is being provided to able-bodied people who won't work because they have it better getting their free check than working for minimum wage at McDonalds.
their clothes and handed the cashier one hundred and fifty bucks... they then went to the liquor store at sunnyside and the cashier already had their order boxed up....i snuck in and got one beer and observed him pay over two hundred dollars for fine liquor.... we followed them home and hey drove to fayette county. They pulled up to a fine home and grandma in an apron ran out with five small kids to help unload the volvo. Found out later the grandma was a hired domestic help. As i went to fayettevile on business serveral years later i drove by the house a realter guy was in the yard and i asked about the family...he said the lady worked for the state at the employment office in griffin and the husband worked for the spalding mental health board...they had never made a house payment since he sold them the house... it took five years to get them out. he was a professional squatter... they now live in a condo in fairburn and i have to tear down this house and sell the lot because they did so much damage to it i cannot have it insured...there is a word for people like this.
What ever happened to parents that taught self respect and disipline to allow the young girls and boys to just go out and lay around with every person they come in contact with, make a baby and jump on the welefare train. I agree with one of the bloggers about the mothers, that they should have to name every man they slept with and then have everyone of them take a DNA test if they are the father then go after them to pay child support instead of making the taxpayer foot the bill for their mistake. Birth control is available YOU SHOULD USE IT!!! or pay the consequences.
we could cut the federal debt in half if not more if they would over haul the welfare system. >>>
You don't know what you are talking about.
All social programs amount to 35% of the GDP. The largest share of that by far is social security and Medicaid. About 5-10% is private. If you cut off all the welfare checks you would get rid of 10% of the burden compared to our GDP.
Welfare benefits adjusted to GDP have been on a steady decline since the late 70's except for a little peak late in Reagan's term.
This is all documented fact that anyone can check and confirm.
It will probably go up now because of the recession that started toward the end of Bush's term, and continued and peaked shortly after Obama took office.
The thing killing us is foreign spending for consumer goods, and the two "wars" we started and all the increases in security while giving tax cuts to people earning over $200K a year.
A friend I know (white) got welfare for a few months, she NEEDED it and was NOT abusing the system. She reported the 2 part time jobs she had. Someone with DFACS 'misplaced' one of her reports and sent a letter to her saying they never got this report and was trying to make her pay back the money they already sent her.
She wrote back and explained that this was NOT her fault and ignored their letters and they finally stopped sending them to her.
If we go back to that behavior maybe a lot of the parents would start getting involved in their children's lives instead of relying on someone to do it for them. I'll bet you if you cut off the free money, and the girls know there will be no tax payer funds, this stupidity will slow way, way down. The final decision rest with the girl to say no, or you will use a contraceptive. Their call unless of rape, and that changes the picture---nothing else
Remember there are exceptions to each and every rule.
I am not saying your child doesn't have a chance but the numbers easily show the odds are against it and not only that within the last few decades, unless you are born into money thae chances of living the American dream is rapidly fading away. That being said, a child needs every resource available and that means what two parents can give. Some times love is not enough.
My first child was born 6 days before my 30th birthday and my 2nd and last child was born when I was 32. I've been happily married for 26 years.
I grew up dirt poor and passed from relative to relative. All I ever thought was this- "as soon as I'm 18, I will never ever be in a situation I can't control again."
Take control of your lives, people. You don't have to be held down if you believe in yourself and your abilities.
I can think of nothing better than knowing I have launched 2 more successful human beings into the world, and that I wake up daily and know I can made my own destiny.
I look at Barnesville and there is absolutely no reason Black people must live on one side of the tracks and whites on the other. But it’s still that way now, and has been for countless generations. What has changes is that poor whites have moved across the tracks because of the need for economical housing. It does seem when a Black person does becomes successful in rural Georgia people line up to try to take them down. I have had a technical position with a hi-tech manufacturer for over 30 years. I once told a friend I didn’t share his social views on black people because I have meet too many that were much smarter than I am. He gave me a look of bewilderment. I try to look past some folk’s point of view because many came by it honestly. They know nothing different. I have faith things will change, but it may not be in my life time.