One question, just how do you know who ever stole your AC is a "Meth head?"
It could have been some one who lost their job and needs to feed their family any way they can !
Let's not point fingers, we might get pointed at ........
Who gives a ratsa$$ if it was a methhead or not. In my eyes if it was a man trying to feed his family that has lost his job....he is a POS too!I have the will to blow someone's a$$ away if coming to steal from me...NO MATTER FOR WHAT REASON!
Well I suppose I might too but that still doesn't mean they were Meth heads !!!!! Not that I am for Meth because I'm not but not everyone is a druggie !!!!!
I'll bet it wouldn't take a lift to 'lift' the copper from your unit... We may all be sinners, but we're not all thieves and I guarantee you I have never put a mane on anyone!
So be it but I'll bet you have at one time or another.
I'll pay you or anyone to take the copper off my unit day or night, that is if you get past security.....LOL
Bless you that have not sinned even ever so tiny.
Actually, one of the people arrested has a long history of abusing the system. This person
had 4 kids by the age of 21 and has not held a job for more than a month at a time. He/she probably has not worked more than 6 months in his/her entire life. And since at least two of the kids are now past 18, there's no more gov't assistance for them; therefore, stealing has become the new source of income.
This is what happens when the gov't lets people get by without working. I believe that if a person doesn't work, they shouldn't get gov't assistance.
I agree with what Walter wrote. I ran an Inmate work detail for quite a while at the maximum security prison in Jackson/Butts co. This county could save tons of money by using inmate work details. One officer per 10-12 inmates. Take the rec dept for example, there are 2 inmates out there during the week. They hee haw around all day and piddle doing this and that. I promise you that I could take 10 inmates and keep that place looking like something in Eagles Landing. They do just enough to get by and thats it. That place is just falling apart out there. It would suit me fine if they shut the whole operation down and the citizens raised enough cain about how things are done and it got restructured completely. I think that Buddy is stuck between a rock and a hard place out there.
The rest of the county could be done the same. Minimum security inmates on tractors cutting roadways throughout. The only time a shotgun would be needed is for medium security. Chains arent necessary. They are limited on the work that can be done.
Barnesville is really falling apart financially.
Personally, I would not want inmates working at the park. They do a crappy job, tear up equipment, "sweat" females and if one of them spoke to my sixteen year old daughter, the detail officer would need that shotgun to protect the inmate! Oh yeah, you can supervise "Medium" security inmates without a shotgun now.
Its all up to detail officer. We took care of our equipment for the most part seeing how old it was. I agree that it can be a little uncomfortable for an inmate to look at your sixteen year old daughter or wife or whoever else. What about in 3 months when they are in plain clothes and do the same thing. There have been a few ignorant inmates from the LC jail that have been out at the rec dept that have made comments to the women around there during the day. The POS workers at the rec dept didnt say anything about it either. I took care of it through Sheriff Waller though. Those people dont care what goes on out there. Henry or the other couple of clowns. They let the family of the inmates come out there and bring stuff to them. This is a huge mistake IMO and the rec dept should be held responsible. That is a threat to security and those family members could be bringing anything to the inmates. Fire all of the employees except one office worker and the director and save 100k a year.
One thing that has always puzzled me about this case is that the focus has been concentrated on Lamar County. There is a strong possibility that this crime was committed in Pike County, not Lamar County. Donna’s car and body were found in Lamar County, but Donna lived just feet inside Pike County. It makes me wonder after all these years of people ranting about Lamar County District attys and what this sheriff did vs. that sheriff. Maybe, just maybe there is someone in good ole PC that is sitting there with an ever so slight Cheshire grin, just watching the gloves being put on and slugging it out next door. I have never read any statement by a Pike County law enforcement agency about this case. Donna was a member of this {Pike} community. There has always been support from the public here {PC} for finding and convicting the person {s} responsible for this crime. I have never heard if this was a high priority case for Pike County law enforcement. Seems that it would be since Donna was a citizen here…just my thoughts…anyone wanna go fishin’? Seems that there might be plenty of worms to go around… a can of em’ at least…
Wow!!!
So we should now have the police harass scrap metal businesses constantly because they might be buying stolen copper?
While we're at it, how about we harass Stan at Hamrick's because he might buy a stolen tool? Gee, while we're at it, let's just have random road blocks to search for copper. If you can't prove it's not stolen, off to the cross bar hotel. You might be a thief.
Aww heck, let's just have body searches, wire tapping of our phones, satellite body imaging and e-mail monitoring in case we are all up to no good. Ooops...my mistake, we already have that under the Patriot Act.
Unfortunately, what is happening is a sign of the times. Whether these people are crackheads or frustrated unempolyed folks, stealing is stealing and a thief is a thief. There are already laws on the books to deal with these people.
As you say Walter, we just need the will to pressure our legal system to prosecute to the fullest extent.
It is my opinion, and I'm not a lawyer, that in destroying these A/C units, they are not only stealing the copper, but have pretty much stolen the whole unit since the unit must now be replace. This involves thousands of dollars. Isn't a certain amount of dollar value theft considered a felony?
Perhaps these insurance companies can lobby our courts to proscecute to the fullest extent instead of lobbying lawmakers into silly laws that take away freedoms from law abiding citizens.
We are now all in a position where we have to take precaution against such behavior. Enclosing our A/C units with a lock and key would at least deter.
I like Stan also.
I was using his business as an example of how we should not use our police to harass folks "in case" they are doing wrong. This behavior is not only unconstitutional but borders the beginning of thought crime.
Im sure you just made a lot of friends. If you want to talk about "will" talk to your mayor, city manager and police chief about hiring more officers. From what I am told there are only 2 on duty at night. With crime going up doesnt it seem logical to hire more people? And since you act like they have nothing else to do or other crimes to solve, why dont you volunteer your time to harass the scrap metal businesses? They dont care where the copper is coming from.
if the U.S. is such a great place, and if we dont jail everyone that needs to be jailed, then why do we have the highest number of jailed people in the world....are we really that much worst than the rest of the world, or do we over react and jail too many... or are we not teaching our children to obey the rules....or are the rules too severe....would changing to a more socialist system prevent the amount or the need for more crime.....just thinking
Legalize and tax marijuana. Just like alcohol in the days gone by. Legalize gambling and tax it just like Nevada. Forget about prostitution. It is the oldest game in the world and it will never be stopped. Leave the prostitutes alone and lock up the pimps who are beating them. Now put your deputies on important things like child molesters, murderers, domestic violence, and FRIGGIN thieves. If you want to figure out how bad the law really hates drinking and driving, ask yourself...how many do you see pulled over "just after leaving the dances, races, etc. NONE." Another political game people. People must be caught and punished at strategic places and times or businesses would close. Life is just a play and if you are lucky you will get to select your part. And if you stay basically sweet like me, you will end up in a nice old folks home one day. So kill if you like, but be sure you notify the correct authorities before you do. You may need to "Front Up a little money."
Our prisons are a joke. We give the inmates medical, three meals a day (except weekends), Air conditioning, dental, visitation, recreation,counseling, classes, etc.. etc...
In other Countries criminals actually lose their rights and prison is what it's meant to be.... A PUNISHMENT!!! Unless you commit a crime in a country that allows for corporal punishment, then you may get caned,whipped. Muslim countries still chop off body parts for certain crimes. So you see, in other countries there are actually deterrents and consequences for committing a crime. Unlike here, where its just an extended "Time Out."
problem: There will always be thieves, they need to be punished,NO EXCUSES, irregardless of reason(s)they stole property, it's wrong.
Solution to help: If you have a problem to solve, don't keep doing operations the same way, WALTER: Don't install ANOTHER copper coilded Air-Air OUTSIDE Heat-Pump, GET A GROUND SOURCE GEOTHERMAL HVAC system!!!!
(unit is INSIDE and COILS are in the GROUND and are plastic!)
Societial SOLUTIONs: Of course, Local jobs, Buy local and hire locals, many of these criminals could work, if they don't mind actually working dirty jobs...farm work like shoveling manure for old farmers, picking up roadside recycling to sell,etc. I have done these & other "dirty jobs" during hard times until I could find better, there is some work always if you REALLY look around!
Yeah, improper use of the word irregardless is a tremendously big problem in todays society. In fact, we best form a committee and "git rite on this here problem."
#16.1.2
Sheila Tolleyirregardless
on
08/31/10 at 04:05 PM
thougtht? What is that word you used there? Is it past tense of thought? Grammar Wizzard, my butt...watch for the squiggly red lines, my friend.
Irregardless is an informal term meaning regardless or irrespective, which has caused controversy since it first appeared in the early twentieth century. Most dictionaries list it as "incorrect" or "nonstandard".
I love it. You guys are so bored that the only thing you have to do is blog on the daily herald. So sad. I got the reaction I want. Irregardless. (HA) Small town minds are a terrible thing to waste. Sheila Tolley, thanks so much for your entertainment. It's a pleasure that you are one less person the citizens of Lamar County have to worry about in competing for the few available jobs. You are to busy sitting on your behind worrying about what everyone else are doing. Please don't stop I truly enjoy your entertainment.
i absolutely adore it when people make comments like this one. why are you here anonymous... not bored at all i would assume. god! let these small town people have their fun.. so what if sheila(or however you spell it) sits of her hind end all day doing nothing but blogging.. at least in the end we have something to shake our heads at... like why she thinks shes so funny.
Let's just put one GIANT ASS Air Conditioner in China. Then we will run pvc pipe through the world to America and cool it off. Do not dare punish a person for stealing. They just hungry? Are they eating copper? I wish there was a market for idiots. So someone would start stealing them.
hey babe - never heard of an ass air conditioner before. what's it do? why do we need to put it in china? what do you serve with copper to make it taste better? anti-freeze is a good drink with copper though. one drink and it relaxes enough to make you never steal again. :-)sideways!
Increased patrols will cost tax dollars this county doesn't have, and for people who complain about the tax rate isn't it hypocritical for you to want more while paying less. But hey I have come to believe that everyone is a hypocrite. You don't want anything done for anyone else but everyone better bend over backwards to help you.
No I dont think so. I am guessing that these people nerver had a job prior to the recession. Probably had their drug habit before then too. There are a lot of jobless people that dont steal. Its a mind set. Im sure these fools have been abusing the welfare system too.
expand further than barnesville and take a job that you dont like. Ive heard that Autozone is hiring. Check with a Quick Trip gas station. Go to the truck stop, truck wash, resturaunt, cut grass, roofing, etc. I know its tough but I see jobs open all the time. They are out there but you just gotta take one that you dont like. Things will come along.
We, as a small community, have the unique opportunity to change the way things are done, the way things are, as opposed to a much larger community where it would be more difficult to gather people that could actually agree on any certain issue. We may not be able to all agree on the method of how to get things accomplished, but we, as a community can find common ground in the general aspects of our lives.
I'm sure we can agree most of us value our personal freedom and community sovereignty.
Most of us dislike watching tax dollars wasted on pet projects which benefit only the few. Most of us do not want crime riddled neighorhoods (except perhaps the crimninals who probably view themselves as victims to begin with) and want justice. We might not agree on the ideas proposed to solve some of our community problems, but we, as law abiding honest citizens, have common ground.
Nonsensical infighting accomplishes very little except, perhaps, to digress from the real issues.
We have been groomed by the media to behave this way.
Disagree with an Obama policy on MSNBC and you are labled a racist, a danger to society. Disagree with Hannity on FOX you are a nut job, a socialist who hates his/her country. It has been like this for years...it has been designed like this to condition us to do the same with each other.
Doubt me?
Just read past comments. Often I read someone's opinion only to see, not the idea attacked but the person. If the answer to someone's idea is to ridicule his/her grammatical skills or misspelled words, to race bait or name call, you accomplish nothing but cause resentment and are but a mere distraction to avoid having a valid and useful opinion as to how to solve a problem.
Very few people actually participate in community. At times, these boards remind me very much of coaching the kids at the rec. center. Very few actually participate. Those who do are often held up to ridicule by those who have no time to contribute but plenty of time to verbally lambast the one's actually contributing to the community.
I am not perfect. It is not uncommon for me to think someone is misinformed and at times even walks the fence of idiocy.
However, I hold no ill will to Obama supporters or those with neo-con values.
Personally, I feel if you liked Bush, you should just love Obama. Both have given us increased debt, increased wars and larger government. It is only their methods which differed. In short, it's the same game, we just have a different quarterback.
It is not Obama who is the change. It is not the next neo-con that is the change. WE ARE CHANGE. It is our ideas, as citizens that must be heard.
The only way, in my opnion to hear these ideas is to allow those with different ideas to be able to voice them as an adult, without ridicule, scorn or personal attack.
Yes, DO something for our community, I am always looking for opportunity (pick-up trash as I walk, etc.)
Another issue for improving our community:
"Downtowners" should walk when possible, ride a bike(or use an electric vehicle!)to keep it quite & pleasant downtown (vs "exploding" exhaust from extremely OVERpowered HP engines)
How many "horses" does it take to carry one person?
For the average vehicle LESS THAN 3% of the HP produced is used to move the driver, the other 97+% or more is used to just move the vehicle!)
When is 300+ Horse Power enough?
Would one person hitch a team of 300+ horses just to roll him around town!
In the spirit of Buggy Days,try riding a horse (or walk) and enjoy the outdoors or meet a neighbor or new friend you've missed driving through town at 40+ mph!
With the fuel saved from walking or riding a bike, we could help(i.e. food)those truely in need localy and know your neighbors again, possibly helping them to become welcomed responsible citizens who really care about our their neighbors and would never steal from them if they knew they could be helped through at temporary struggle or need for basic care.
Maybe by helping & knowning your neighbor (as small towns once did, like in "old" Barnesville, when you speak to someone passing could walk and quietly talk OUTSIDE)
we might just help JUST ONE local not be a criminal...and imagine if WE ALL helped at least one person!!
whether we like it or not,"what goes around..."
We are ALL is this TOGETHER.
ATTENTION, There is a man going around the Holmes St, Moye St, College Dr area asking for money for gas saying he is from out of town. This is a SCAM he has been doing this for the last couple of weeks. I've seen him the last two days and reported himbut he is still out there, dont give him money, call and report him and maybe our police department will make him leave our citizens alone.
Only registered users may comment on stories. Please login or register to post comments. Your browser must support cookies.
Bust them, stack on charges, get a plea, slam the hammer, next case.
Hell Donna Johnson can't even get a damn statement from Waller.
It could have been some one who lost their job and needs to feed their family any way they can !
Let's not point fingers, we might get pointed at ........
what the frack... go ahead and feel bad for them.. then they'll jack your a/c and laugh all the way to the scrap yard.
I don't have to worry about my AC because it sits on the ground and had to have a lift to put it there.
We are all guilty of putting manes on people when we don't know and besides WHO AMONG US ARE WITHOUT SIN????????
Are you?
I'll pay you or anyone to take the copper off my unit day or night, that is if you get past security.....LOL
Bless you that have not sinned even ever so tiny.
had 4 kids by the age of 21 and has not held a job for more than a month at a time. He/she probably has not worked more than 6 months in his/her entire life. And since at least two of the kids are now past 18, there's no more gov't assistance for them; therefore, stealing has become the new source of income.
This is what happens when the gov't lets people get by without working. I believe that if a person doesn't work, they shouldn't get gov't assistance.
The rest of the county could be done the same. Minimum security inmates on tractors cutting roadways throughout. The only time a shotgun would be needed is for medium security. Chains arent necessary. They are limited on the work that can be done.
Barnesville is really falling apart financially.
One thing that has always puzzled me about this case is that the focus has been concentrated on Lamar County. There is a strong possibility that this crime was committed in Pike County, not Lamar County. Donna’s car and body were found in Lamar County, but Donna lived just feet inside Pike County. It makes me wonder after all these years of people ranting about Lamar County District attys and what this sheriff did vs. that sheriff. Maybe, just maybe there is someone in good ole PC that is sitting there with an ever so slight Cheshire grin, just watching the gloves being put on and slugging it out next door. I have never read any statement by a Pike County law enforcement agency about this case. Donna was a member of this {Pike} community. There has always been support from the public here {PC} for finding and convicting the person {s} responsible for this crime. I have never heard if this was a high priority case for Pike County law enforcement. Seems that it would be since Donna was a citizen here…just my thoughts…anyone wanna go fishin’? Seems that there might be plenty of worms to go around… a can of em’ at least…
So we should now have the police harass scrap metal businesses constantly because they might be buying stolen copper?
While we're at it, how about we harass Stan at Hamrick's because he might buy a stolen tool? Gee, while we're at it, let's just have random road blocks to search for copper. If you can't prove it's not stolen, off to the cross bar hotel. You might be a thief.
Aww heck, let's just have body searches, wire tapping of our phones, satellite body imaging and e-mail monitoring in case we are all up to no good. Ooops...my mistake, we already have that under the Patriot Act.
Unfortunately, what is happening is a sign of the times. Whether these people are crackheads or frustrated unempolyed folks, stealing is stealing and a thief is a thief. There are already laws on the books to deal with these people.
As you say Walter, we just need the will to pressure our legal system to prosecute to the fullest extent.
It is my opinion, and I'm not a lawyer, that in destroying these A/C units, they are not only stealing the copper, but have pretty much stolen the whole unit since the unit must now be replace. This involves thousands of dollars. Isn't a certain amount of dollar value theft considered a felony?
Perhaps these insurance companies can lobby our courts to proscecute to the fullest extent instead of lobbying lawmakers into silly laws that take away freedoms from law abiding citizens.
We are now all in a position where we have to take precaution against such behavior. Enclosing our A/C units with a lock and key would at least deter.
He's a true Brother.
I was using his business as an example of how we should not use our police to harass folks "in case" they are doing wrong. This behavior is not only unconstitutional but borders the beginning of thought crime.
That will teach them a leason. Eye for an Eye,
tooth for a tooth.
In other Countries criminals actually lose their rights and prison is what it's meant to be.... A PUNISHMENT!!! Unless you commit a crime in a country that allows for corporal punishment, then you may get caned,whipped. Muslim countries still chop off body parts for certain crimes. So you see, in other countries there are actually deterrents and consequences for committing a crime. Unlike here, where its just an extended "Time Out."
problem: There will always be thieves, they need to be punished,NO EXCUSES, irregardless of reason(s)they stole property, it's wrong.
Solution to help: If you have a problem to solve, don't keep doing operations the same way, WALTER: Don't install ANOTHER copper coilded Air-Air OUTSIDE Heat-Pump, GET A GROUND SOURCE GEOTHERMAL HVAC system!!!!
(unit is INSIDE and COILS are in the GROUND and are plastic!)
Societial SOLUTIONs: Of course, Local jobs, Buy local and hire locals, many of these criminals could work, if they don't mind actually working dirty jobs...farm work like shoveling manure for old farmers, picking up roadside recycling to sell,etc. I have done these & other "dirty jobs" during hard times until I could find better, there is some work always if you REALLY look around!
or use common logic to infer from context of subject to determine meaning conveyed.
I also mispelled societal, sorry.
p.s. you mispelled "thougtht" and first word, as in "...Just", after an ellipsis are not capitalized (unless terminated by period).
English language can be a never ending correction insignificant error by all...
Don't miss the forest for the trees!
Mark Twain
You are welcome.
Sheila, Shelia, Shela, Sheela, Sheelah, etc.
Tolley, Tolly, Tollie, Tolli, Tolle, etc.
Irregardless is an informal term meaning regardless or irrespective, which has caused controversy since it first appeared in the early twentieth century. Most dictionaries list it as "incorrect" or "nonstandard".
However, it is still considered a word of use.
may be unecessary verbage but means "regardless".
Good one Shelia......But there is a market...it's called politics.
Headline: Copper thefts increase to feed meth addiction
Any chance the two are related?
i'm currently unemployed in lamar county but i don't steal copper or do meth.. so i suppose they aren't related.
i totally need a job though cause i'm a terrible thief.. if you know of anywhere hiring could you let me know.. that would be friggin sweet!
I'm sure we can agree most of us value our personal freedom and community sovereignty.
Most of us dislike watching tax dollars wasted on pet projects which benefit only the few. Most of us do not want crime riddled neighorhoods (except perhaps the crimninals who probably view themselves as victims to begin with) and want justice. We might not agree on the ideas proposed to solve some of our community problems, but we, as law abiding honest citizens, have common ground.
Nonsensical infighting accomplishes very little except, perhaps, to digress from the real issues.
We have been groomed by the media to behave this way.
Disagree with an Obama policy on MSNBC and you are labled a racist, a danger to society. Disagree with Hannity on FOX you are a nut job, a socialist who hates his/her country. It has been like this for years...it has been designed like this to condition us to do the same with each other.
Doubt me?
Just read past comments. Often I read someone's opinion only to see, not the idea attacked but the person. If the answer to someone's idea is to ridicule his/her grammatical skills or misspelled words, to race bait or name call, you accomplish nothing but cause resentment and are but a mere distraction to avoid having a valid and useful opinion as to how to solve a problem.
Very few people actually participate in community. At times, these boards remind me very much of coaching the kids at the rec. center. Very few actually participate. Those who do are often held up to ridicule by those who have no time to contribute but plenty of time to verbally lambast the one's actually contributing to the community.
I am not perfect. It is not uncommon for me to think someone is misinformed and at times even walks the fence of idiocy.
However, I hold no ill will to Obama supporters or those with neo-con values.
Personally, I feel if you liked Bush, you should just love Obama. Both have given us increased debt, increased wars and larger government. It is only their methods which differed. In short, it's the same game, we just have a different quarterback.
It is not Obama who is the change. It is not the next neo-con that is the change. WE ARE CHANGE. It is our ideas, as citizens that must be heard.
The only way, in my opnion to hear these ideas is to allow those with different ideas to be able to voice them as an adult, without ridicule, scorn or personal attack.
Yes, DO something for our community, I am always looking for opportunity (pick-up trash as I walk, etc.)
Another issue for improving our community:
"Downtowners" should walk when possible, ride a bike(or use an electric vehicle!)to keep it quite & pleasant downtown (vs "exploding" exhaust from extremely OVERpowered HP engines)
How many "horses" does it take to carry one person?
For the average vehicle LESS THAN 3% of the HP produced is used to move the driver, the other 97+% or more is used to just move the vehicle!)
When is 300+ Horse Power enough?
Would one person hitch a team of 300+ horses just to roll him around town!
In the spirit of Buggy Days,try riding a horse (or walk) and enjoy the outdoors or meet a neighbor or new friend you've missed driving through town at 40+ mph!
With the fuel saved from walking or riding a bike, we could help(i.e. food)those truely in need localy and know your neighbors again, possibly helping them to become welcomed responsible citizens who really care about our their neighbors and would never steal from them if they knew they could be helped through at temporary struggle or need for basic care.
Maybe by helping & knowning your neighbor (as small towns once did, like in "old" Barnesville, when you speak to someone passing could walk and quietly talk OUTSIDE)
we might just help JUST ONE local not be a criminal...and imagine if WE ALL helped at least one person!!
whether we like it or not,"what goes around..."
We are ALL is this TOGETHER.
I get it. Because your AC was destroyed. Thats funny right there.