The Augusta Chronicle
Ultraliberal filmmaker Michael Moore is so intellectually bankrupt that he hardly warrants the credit of a return argument. But sometimes his blather is so disgusting and offensive, you can't resist.
Michael Moore spews Communist rhetoric.
The bomb in Japan during WWII that kill hundreds of thousands innocence children. Wouldn't that be classified with a demeaning attack or excessive retaliation?
Civil rights for all. Only 3 decades ago which is not that long ago. All American citizens was not treat equal. Was that right? Are we the perfect nation?
And the sore of our history Slavery. Where we the mighty noble christian we profess to be? Do we still consider ourselves the perfect nation? Before we point finger at all of the wrongdoers of the world we need to inventory ourselves. Of course Walter want write about that because he either agree with the aggression that we as American committed on others as the right thing to do or we as American are the perfect nation with no history of punishing other in the name of god and the right thing to do. Just a thought. Only intelligent replies with substance.
2--the US used the atomic bomb to shorten the war by saving the lives of millions of allied forces.and the bomb did not kill "hundreds of thousands of innocent childred"each and every person in Japan was trained to defend their country with their lives including children
3--Salvery did not start with this country.every civilization in history has been held in bondage at one time or another in history.it was not limited to just black people of the world.get over it!!
IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE WAY WE THINK THEN GET THE *** OUT!
Really?
IF YOU HAVE AN ORIGINAL THOUGHT OR IF YOU EXPRESS CONCERN ABOUT WHATS GOING ON HERE GET THE *** OUT!
Come on.
HOW DARE YOU THINK THAT YOUR GOVERNMENT COULD POSSIBLY BE CORRUPT! HELL I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO READ THE FACTS YOU JUST POSTED JUST GET THE *** OUT!
In the end, thats whats wrong with America. Since you're obviously not an Obama fan (as neither am I) I'll give you a Bush quote "You're either with us or you're against us." And let me let you in on a little secret. You're all on the losing side. It doesn't matter if it's Bush, Clinton, "Obammy" it's all the side group of people. Come out of your shell and quit telling the only ones thats actually fighting to get out.
....and let's not forget that Saddam Hussein REPEATEDLY refused to follow the UN guidelines that temporarily ceased hostilities in ODS....Each and every violation of the agreement, each time he failed to follow through on the required actions, each time he 'lit up' patrolling fighters in the 'no fly' zone, was reason enough (if war for war's sake was the goal) to continue the war that HE started.......Yes, WMD were found, although not to the extent believed to be (no nuclear weapons to speak of) and were all 'vintage' issue from his earlier murder of Kurds and Iranians, but they did exist....
"We built Burger Kings, Pizza Huts, KFC, and YES christian temples on there soil for our troops to serve there god. By the way I'm a retired Veteran..."
....I wish to thank you for your service at this point....truthfully....
"...and a christian and I repeat I do not agree with what happen on 911. We try to change the way they live to our lifestyle I've been there and witness this first hand. So how can we get in such a outrage over the Mosque when we praise our god on there soil? Again I totally disagree with terrorist attacks."
....I have yet to see anyone (anyone reasonable anyway) say Moslems CANNOT build a mosque in the US....The question is SHOULD a mosque be built so close to the place where so many died as a result of a radical Muslem attack....Would it be reasonable for the Neonazis to build a shrine to Adolph Hitler outside the gates of Auschwitz?...I think not to both cases...
"The bomb in Japan during WWII that kill hundreds of thousands innocence children. Wouldn't that be classified with a demeaning attack or excessive retaliation?"
.....Many scholars agree that, had the US NOT dropped the atomic bombs on Nagasaki and Hiroshima, even MORE civilian deaths would have occurred in the slow, grinding ground assault that would have been required to end the war....Let us also not forget that on 1 August 1945 the citizens of these cities, and others, were warned PRIOR to the dropping of the bombs ...The notice read, in part, 'In the next few days, some or all of the cities named on the reverse side will be destroyed by American bombs....the American Air Force, which does not wish to injure innocent people, now gives you warning to evacuate the cities named and save your lives....'
...I don't recall anyone dropping leaflets over New York with similar messages prior to September 11th......
"Civil rights for all. Only 3 decades ago which is not that long ago. All American citizens was not treat equal. Was that right? Are we the perfect nation?"
...Only a fool or failure to understand history would ever make the claim that the US is 'perfect' or has ever been so....
"And the sore of our history Slavery. Where we the mighty noble christian we profess to be? Do we still consider ourselves the perfect nation?"
...See above, repeating strawman arguments make them no more accurate the second time...
"Before we point finger at all of the wrongdoers of the world we need to inventory ourselves."
...You must not watch the news, or read the newspaper often if you actually believe that the US doesn't 'inventory ourselves' regularly, incessantly, endlessly, ad naseum....
"Of course Walter want write about that because he either agree with the aggression that we as American committed on others as the right thing to do or we as American are the perfect nation with no history of punishing other in the name of god and the right thing to do. Just a thought. Only intelligent replies with substance."
...If Walter feels it's necessary to reply to your characterizations of him, that is his choice...
...Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it?....You either choose to ignore or simply don't know that the reason for Operation Desert Storm was IRAQ'S INVASION OF KUWAIT..At no point did I say we invaded because he gassed his own people, I clearly stated it was his VIOLATION OF UN ACCORDS...
"If we was so compassionate, why do we hate in the U.S. just because of something as small as the color of a person skin."
...Some human beings hate for any number of reasons....Americans are human, and some are dispicable, but when there is an earthquake in Mexico, or a tsunami in the Pacific rim, or mudslide in Asia, WHO *ALWAYS* sends money, assistance, supplies and medical care?....Any guess?....I know actions don't mean much if they don't fit your little world view, but on the whole the US helps anyone who needs it (nation to nation) to the tune of BILLIONS per year....We aren't the only ones, but everyone expects us to 'be there'...
"Please we will say anything to justify our aggression and our wrong doing. That wasn't the reason we INVADED $$$$ Is the reason for the invasion."
...Money, wealth, resources, possessions, defense, etc, is the driving force for most conflict so why would this one be any different?...I certainly never said it was..
"I didn't mention oil once.."
...and neither did I, so what's your point?...
Author, you DO see the pyramid scheme symbol on the back of the USA one dollar bill, right? You DO see the servitude infestation in capitalism, right? And do you see the "pay up or lose your wellbeing" Chicago mob-like felony extortion widespread within capitalism? Do you see the "join or starve" felony extortion done to the 18 year olds... by this ugly competer's church called capitalism? See how forcing competer's religions onto 18 year olds... kills membership in the cooperator's church (Christianity/socialism)?? Do you understand that AmWay (American Way) (New World Order) got "the exclusive" (legal tender) on the TYPE of survival coupons (money) accepted in supply depots (stores) and leverages 18 year olds into the organization via that felony activity as well? (It puts AmWay-coupon slaving requirements called price tags... on all the survival goods). Do you understand how farmyard pyramids work... from your childhood?? Remember?? Upper 1/3 are "heads in the clouds" while the kids on the bottom ALWAYS GET HURT from the weight of the world's knees in their backs? Still with me? Do you see anything illegal, immoral, or just plain sick... in any of this pyramid scheme's activities?
Us American Christian socialists are still patiently awaiting the natural fall of the pyramid-o-servitude, or the busting of the free marketeers felony... by the USA Dept of Justice. Us Christians are VERY CLOSE to issuing a cease and desist order until the servitude and inequality goes away... which means it turns into a commune. Commune is a word we LOVE when used in the word "community"... but its one the caps HATE when used in the term "commune-ism". Go fig. PROGRAMMED!!
Do a Google IMAGE SEARCH for 'pyramid of capitalist' to see a full color picture made way back in 1911, when capitalism was first discovered to be a con/sham instigated by the Free Masons/Illuminati. Folks sure bought into the thing... hook, line, and sinker just the same. The caps didn't even check if a string was attached! Now THAT'S easy fishing, eh?
Time to level the felony pyramid scheme called capitalism. Abolish economies and ownershipism worldwide, and hurry. Economies just cause rat-racing, and rat-racing causes felony pyramiding. BUST IT, America! Look to the USA military supply/survival system... (and the USA public library system) for socialism and morals done right. Equal, owner-less, money-less, bill-less, timecard-less, and concerned with growth of value-criteria OTHER THAN money-value. Quit doing monetary discrimination immediately, and make it illegal. There are MANY measurement criteria of "value"... not just dollars. Try morals, efficiency, discrimination-levels, repairability, etc etc. Economies are cancerous tumors, and to cheer for their growth... is just insane. Profiting causes inflation, so if caps LIKE inflation, and if they LIKE a terrible time in afterlife when they meet the planet's ORIGINAL OWNER before caps tried to squat it all with ownershipism, then keep it up with the felony pyramiding. I dare you. While us Christians are finally bulldozing that pyramid scheme back to level, lets make servitude and "join or starve" (get a job or die) illegal in the USA, and lets level the architecture seen in USA courtrooms, too. Right now, USA courtrooms are church simulators or "fear chambers", by special design. Sick.
Isn't that back-of-the-dollar pyramid... a Columbian freemason symbol? And WHERE is the USA gov located? District of Columbia? (Not even part of the USA!) How much more blatant can ya get? The "Fed" runs a pyramid scheme called the free marketeers. If you're using the "federal reserve note" certificates, or using no-other-living-thing-on-the-planet entitles of ownership, you're bought into a servitude/slavery con/sham... called capitalism. Pyramiding 101. Not STATE ownership, dummy. NO ownership. Ownership is a man-made-up phenomena. Catch up! HURRY! And yes, in New America, we are ALL cops, morasls-storytellers, and ALL members of government (of the people), but no more "hiring" or working FOR (as opposed to WITH). C'mon, you can "get" this, Bill. I have faith in you.
Larry "Wingnut" Wendlandt
MaStars - Mothers Against Stuff That Ain't Right
(anti-capitalism-ists)
Bessemer MI USA
Wingy
...If, on the other hand this post is serious, I can only reply:
'Day-yumn'
Now, the servitude infestation? See all the people working FOR others in INEQUALITY as opposed to WITH others in "all men are create equal"-EQUALITY? Need a diagram? Servitude is RAMPANT in capitalism. Duh. Today you'll likely walk into a burger joint and ORDER a servant to make you a hamburger. Behind the counter, that servant stands beneath a "do it or else" anvil that could crash down on them in a flash. So, your "order" WILL be carried-out, OR ELSE! Fun with "orders" (all meanings included). Ain't empowerment great? Got greenstamps? Then you can ORDER slaves around. Nice. Its part of the "New World ORDER"... which is a loose translation of the worlds beneath the pyramid symbol on the USA dollar. Its essentially AmWay (American Way). Still caught-up? We're SO proud of you!!!
Pay up or lose your wellbeing? Read about the Chicago mobs doing "pay up or else" extortion to small businesses in Chicago... prior to Elliot Ness. Read read read. ANY time you use OR ELSE, OR DIE, and/or OR STARVE forcings, that called extortion, and its a felony. Need more? Lets hope not, as I've explained it in 3-yr-old speak for ya. You can't do SLAVE or else, JOIN or else, or PAY UP or else. Felony. I could file for a cease and desist order on capitalism TODAY, and I'd get it. But the caps won't learn anything in doing that. They need to get bloody to make the pyramiding lesson burn-in nice and firm.
Farmyard and playground pyramiding? Do you think its wise and/or fair that SOME kids/adults should be atop the pyramid from the get-go (early squatters of land in the USA before you and I were even born)... and other kids get assigned roles on the bottom layer, or starve? Some sit on yachts while some sit in hogcrap, blood, and sweat. And they were BORN into that? See that as anywhere near "all me are created equal"? Hardly. Need diagrams?
There, that's far more detailing than your aimless little comment deserves. CATCH UP!!! Edu = GOOD!
...You bring up a very interesting point, and you are absolutely right about one thing: equality (or inequality if you prefer)...but you have the details wrong...All men are NOT created 'equal', tis true, but the inequality lies in their ability and drive to do better for themselves....
...Capitalism says 'You get what you earn'
...Communism says 'You all get the same, regardless what you earn'
...Socialism says 'You get what others earn'
Although I do love a good conspiracy theory, yours has one major flaw.
"Do you see the "join or starve" felony extortion done to the 18 year olds.."
NO, I do not. The 18 yrs olds of today have a choice of joining the workforce and becoming productive citizens or start suckling the guvment's teet. I for one would love to make your dream a reality by taking away one of these choices. Take a guess at which one.
But I will give you credit...Your "Upper 1/3 are "heads in the clouds" comment does describe our politicians. Republicans and Democrats alike have their "heads in the clouds", but they need to have their asses brought back down to earth with the rest of us.
g,t says: Although I do love a good conspiracy theory, yours has one major flaw. "Do you see the join or starve felony extortion done to the 18 year olds.." NO, I do not. The 18 yrs olds of today have a choice of joining the workforce and becoming productive citizens or start suckling the guvment's teet.
"Joining the workforce". Do you realize that means joining the free marketeers, a competer's religion? There are lovers and there are fighters, and guess what. Lovers don't like competing... and don't want to join the competer's church. Some of us don't like money and ownership, and prefer that the MAIN social structure of America... eliminate those, and operate more like the survival/supply system in the military... using requisition forms (for necessities) instead of money. (Luxuries/toys go into repositories for all to share, no matter any ranks).
The military does not discriminate on who gets requisition forms.... just like the public library system does not discriminate on who gets to check out books. Both systems are socialisms or communes, and both work far better than rat-racing systems like capitalism/economies. The military supply system and USA public library system... uses custodianships, not ownership. There's a drastic difference between the two... and that's in the amount and type of controlism available. We Christian socialists want to be productive and want to work, but not for a competer's church that has the exclusive on the type of money allowed. We see greenbacks printed by the free marketeers... but we don't see Catholic bluebacks or Lutheran redbacks or Socialist yellowbacks. If the capitalists think that competition is healthy, (as opposed to cooperation)... then WHERE is the competition for the TYPES of survivor coupons accepted in supply depots (stores)? Caps, do you think you've been bandwagoned/railroaded into using only one kind of money, and joining ONLY a competer's church? Where's the cooperator's church? Do we offer THAT to the 18 year olds? No.
Okay, actually we DO offer that, in the form of Amish, Quakers, Mennonite, etc. But do those organizations offer the same "opportunities" and bling lurings... as the capitalism lurings? Hardly. Those communes are share share share, and because they are so oppressed in the opportunity dept, they don't get joined. Hell, their wiseness doesn't get taught to the kids AT ALL. RAILROADING! The Amish shovel lasts 6 generations and is quite repairable. The capitalist shovel lasts two weeks, and no user-serviceable parts inside. Throw it away, buy another, if the capitalism shovel breaks, and it will. Its made with cut-corners, and the corners are tightening more by the minute. The capitalist buy-ins are producing profits, not good tools.
Your "joining the workforce and becoming productive citizens" can be translated into joining the competer's religion and getting "ordered" to make "products" that those higher on the pyramid scheme... use to gouge people or to make wars across borders (which are ownership things again, just like yard fences and locks, etc). Do you think a "job" is a GOOD THING, by chance? Don't. Its a well-beloved con. Money and ownership are the tugged-over "devices" by which rat-racing/pyramiding CAN happen. Abolish money, which will automatically abolish price tags and ownership, and now nobody needs to suck ANYTHING teets, right? Don't put ANYONE in a position where they have to sign their power away, and work FOR anything. Not a single other living creature on the entire planet uses money or ownership. Do you REALLY think capitalism is "natural" or created by the Earth creators? Lets hope not... as its a totally man-made-up thing.
g,t says: But I will give you credit...Your "Upper 1/3 are "heads in the clouds" comment does describe our politicians. Republicans and Democrats alike have their "heads in the clouds", but they need to have their asses brought back down to earth with the rest of us.
Thanks, and its not just the politicians... its the ridonkulously rich, too, and maybe more so. The heavily-latched-onto adage about the separation of church and state, makes capitalists (and politicians) paint on the dreaded "don't take it personally, its just busyness" scapegoating and handwashing. Truth is, nobody is going to be able to separate church and state (separate moral considerations from busyness/rat-racing-for-greenbacks). The lovers are taking over now, because the fighters have screwed up the situation SO BADLY... so don't count on separation of church and state. People like me are dragging the church right out into the streets, and on a Monday morning to boot. (And here they thought morals and love was only a weekend/Sunday thing, huh?)
One more thing I'd also like to address if I may. "the rest of us"... as viewed from "up there" in enjoyment/empowerment-addiction cloud-land... is folks LIKE THEM. That's what heads-in-the-cluds means, in a way. They've been enjoyment and empowerment addicted SO LONG, that it looks "normal" and "good" and "right" to them (THEM's = US's playing roles as high-pyramiders). The people on all sides of THOSE us's... co-condone that way of operating for each other. They (high-pyramid WE's) are playing roles, and often, they don't even know how retarded they are being... because... they never "come down" to check the pile of dead bodies at the exhaust pipe of their Earth/people-mowing machine. They (empowered WE) think they are being normal, and for THAT layer, it appears they are correct. Classing/pyramid-layers... separate and isolate... and make for poor communications, rose-colored glasses, and blinders. Commune is the base workd in "communication", as well as community and communion. We'll never be able to get the New America commune going... when there are no monetary fairness laws in place, when there is no analysis of the term/phenomenon called "affording", and when monetary discrimination is legal in the USA.
Good comments and concerns, g.t, thanks!
By using requisition forms and custodianship instead of ownership, we have taken away the "devices" that cause tug-o-warring. If you look at the military members, they tend to adopt one another and take care of each other, too. Giving/sharing survival supplies to/with another... is very common in the military supply/survival system, as "replenishing" those items to the giver... is easy. All supplies belong to Team America, or better yet, take down the friggin' borders and lets do Team Earth. Sure, its a lot of work, sure its going to take a whole new thought process and teachings to our children, but it works. The military and public library system wouldn't use communes if they didn't work. But money, price tags, and ownership have to go, before rat-racing on pyramids... ends... and is outlawed.
Truth is, America doesn't have a choice in the matter anymore. The pyramid scheme is collapsing due to too much competing to get a leg up (a pyramiding thing). The pyramid got too top heavy, and started crushing too many on the bottom... just like the childhood playground pyramids do. Every single childhood pyramid collapsed when the kids on the bottom couldn't hold anymore weight.
Oh, and a person requisitions more requisition forms using a requisition form. :) Thanks for the comments/interest.
To the person who posted the "Capitalism has become the nation's downfall" comment, well said and absolutely right... or mostly right. The nation is fine (at least the non-capitalism-using creatures are fine, though crowded and stressed). Its capitalism that's taking the downfall. While the nation might lose greatness financially and strong-arming-wise, the nation is FINALLY becoming great in/at morals and logic... and great at getting along with each other(s). Rises and downfalls have MANY measuring criteria, not just dollars, materialism, and fighting prowess. Be sure to measure using ALL the facets and criteria that make up success and greatness... if you please.
So my suggestion to you sir, is to get your Church group (or whatever you call yourselves) together, petition the guvment, and start your own little commune somewhere. Where you people can have all the requisition forms you want. And leave the rest of US alone.
No matter how much you avoid owning-up to being conned, your pyramid scheme is collapsing. You'll need to join a different club or learn to think for yourself instead of doing as you're told or following the "normal" herd off a cliff. The new club might as well be a wiser system than the one that has now failed, right? Try a little Christianity instead of a bill-a-thon and inequality festival. Try it, you'll like it... and you haven't a choice in the matter, because capitalism has flopped... as all pyramids do. Keep hugging your painted-up and perfumed-up dogturd, though, if it turns you on. You know better. Government OF THE PEOPLE policies and laws will look MUCH better than the free mason herd control system rules and policies ANY DAY.
Your little exploitation festival pyramid scheme is gone. You KNOW inequality and monetary discrimination is wrong... yet you love a system that does it continuously? Yikes. You bought into a con and its just a matter of time before you have to own-up to it. You haven't a choice in the matter... as its a-comin' down... and wise people are investigating WHY it didn't work. Its SO structurally and morally unsound, that it HAD to flop. And I wouldn't doubt that a bit of divine intervention is at work, too.
Get ready for the cooperator's church... because the competer's church has left the caps scratchin' and doing blame-a-thons with almost all parts of the pyramid scheme. Blaming and accusing is great fun until you have to turn the finger on yourself, huh? My suggestion to you, sir, is to get your felony pyramid scheme off of OUR planet before we anti-caps throw the whole lot of you capitalism participants... in federal prison... for extortion. You've been warned about being felons, now. Clean yourselves up before we Christians do it the hard way. Not a threat, a promise.
...Funny, it would seem the 'great Socialist experiments' of the world continue to fail or fail their people, while the Capitalist systems thrive (with a hitch or two, granted)...
..And before you go into six paragraphs about how YOUR little utopia isn't Socialism (or socialism, if you prefer) the difference is so slight as to be negligible for this discussion.....
get the clue wingnut? your name surely fits. you are serveral turns from being tight.
Who decides what we need? Who decides what is necessity or luxury? And the people in charge of this, will they not be corrupt? What would be my motivation to work? Will I have to work? Why would I work if I am guaranteed the same as someone who doesn't work?
Even in the Donna Johnson case, people are complaining because there is no reward.
Money makes the world go round. You can be a cold blooded killer, but it you pay the right people, you are free to continue on about your business.
Dying?? Well, if you want that surgery that could save you, you better start saving up because no one here does it for the right reasons; to help.
The world is sucking and money has become our God.
Our country is now fueled by hate and dishonesty on both sides. It is difficult to make a rational decision about a good course to take to correct our problems when we flip flop between extremes, and when we focus on lies and half-truths by both sides.
Hate and lack of future-planning is the fuel powering us towards ruin, not cheese burgers and not Muslims.