Such a tragedy. I knew both of these ladies, although it had been a long while since talking with either of them. If only this could be a wake up call to those whose lives are ruled by drugs. If only......
I remember these 2 ladies from school. I worked with Cindy's daughter a few years ago. I'm sorry I can't remember her name, but wanted to say I'm so sorry !!
This is so horrible.
I don't think there's any conspiracy floating around here, it sounds like a drug overdose.
A terrible thing.
My condolences to the friends and families.
nothing ever sounds right cause the dead can not talk... it would be totally different scenario if the story could be told as they saw it before their untimely death...
You know cruel comments like yours makes it much harder for the family,maybe if it was one of your family you wouldn't have made such a harsh statement of the dead.SO I THINK YOU MAY NEED TO PRAY THAT IT DOESN'T HAPPEN TO SOMEONE YOU KNOW OR LOVE,OR GOD FORBID ONE OF YOUR OWN FAMILY!
Lets not use this site for bashing of anyone. If this is what caused their deaths then so be it. Dee is my cousin and our family is in pain and really dont care about your negative opinions. Pray for our family and Cindy's family instead of speaking your negatives. You be the example and SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
it happened on cottage road,there was a bright light over the soybean field,at the top of the hill near the old abandoned house.weird--we thought it was the gas plant,there are strange lights and sounds up there all the time.
I think that Walter Geiger and the staff of this newspaper as well as Pike Co Journal Reporter need to reconsider the allowing of comments to new articles. This has become one of the most disgusting places. You should treat this the same as a letter to the Editor and quit allowing such shameful gossip and people bashing on your website. Shame on You.
I agree wholeheartedly with the fact that the comments need not be allowed. The ignorance that comes from the safety of sitting at a computer screen and self righteously blasting others makes me sick.
There are kids involved and a hurting family. Perhaps people should be more concerned about reaching out to those hurting than vomiting their viewpoints on those who are already devastated.
To the family, you're in my prayers, and we've got people across the nation praying for you. I can't imagine the loss.
If the grieving people are really grieving then I'm sure they are not viewing or even worried about what is posted on here. Obviously the dead didn't care about themselves if this is an overdose.
Exactly...why did they not send her to a hospital to get help?
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Rev. Truth B. Known, Sr.
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10/22/09 at 12:09 PM
Wendy, if you and Heather find the newspapers' comment areas
too "disgusting", read the news articles and bypass the comments. Everyone is FREE to exercise their RIGHT not to participate. Maybe those who feel the same as you, should seek a publication where everyone's opinion and thinking are exactly as your own. Accept the fact there are crass and rude people in this world and they do things different.
It would be a sad day for this area if Mr. Geiger decided to print only ONE VIEW from a chosen segment of local society. All you have to do, is witness the media control coming from the tyrants in the White House. Do you favor censorship?
I dislike the insensitive words printed about these dead women.
I don't respect jerks, BUT, I respect their RIGHT to display their stupidity.
I don't think comment period should be allowed and that includes ALL opinions. As far as I know there are not any other local papers allowing such CRAP. Funny how you hide behind a bougus name too. Why don't you use your REAL name? Scared maybe? Ashamed maybe? Maybe your family won't be in the newspaper but then again they may have and that's why you use an assumed name..........
I guess we won't know for sure until the results of the autopsies are back but if these two ladies did pass away as a result of drug misuse or whatever, don't you think THEY are the ones hurting their children and families and friends??? Not what someone speculates on a blog. I don't know either of these females and it is very tragic that they have lost their lives. But if it was self-induced, whether purposefully or by accident, then shame on them for putting their loved ones through this.
24 hour news has spoiled the public into thinking that we should have the full story as soon as it happens. After all, it's the news and we "need" to know.
Then we feel the need to evaluate the story and throw our two cents in when we don't always have the full story. All too often, we don't even bother to think about family and friends who will be affected by our words.
To those who have said words of kindness, thank you for thinking of others and treating them as you would want to be treated.
As for the rest, I have said before that there is no accountability when a name is not required to go with the editorial. The ultimate responsibility for this lies with the newspaper that provides this forum.
We have seen families and friends rip each other to shreds in front of everyone on this and the Pike Journal blog site. People are casting judgement here when the facts aren't out and even if the story turns out to be true, who are we to cast our judgement on those who are left behind?
Walter, I ask again, when is enough goung to be enough?
GET A JOB. You are too broed......You too hide behind anonymous, Go figure. You have no clue what or who they cared about and to ashamed or scared to put your real identity guess you are hiding from something too.
It wouldn't nothing but Aunt Betsy. She ate mexican last night she almost blowed her tail off. Wasn't a bright light...just her panties coming back down..
I say get off of here and stop reading the post....its that easy. You have a choice. Do you not think people are talking about this anyway. I'm sure the local eating establishments were full of talk this morning. It will continue as always. The way I see it, you and your family must be avid readers of theses two news sites. I would also bet that you have posted comments in the past. Its only disturbing now because its your family or friends in the news.
Ok Mr. Geiger, you can now shut down the presses, pull down the shades and lock the doors on your way out. The incensed censoring ladies that feel repulsed, disgusted and ashamed by reader comments have spoken.
They have spoken again, again, and again,..
I thought they were above this fray and wanted all opinions removed from news articles. Yet, these "ladies" seem to be fine when they are allowed to post comments bashing anyone who doesn't agree with "them".
It seems very peculiar to me. These same "ladies" who display such adamant opinionated stances favoring full censorship, have themselves gotten undressed and jumped right in to wallow in the commentary mudhole with the rest of the postulating porcines.
If they are so incensed, why don't they utter some ..tsks..tsks..to themselves and leave the nasty pig pen? They hang around registering their displeasure in the very comment area they want removed.
I hope Mr. Geiger's fine newspaper businesses don't suffer profit wise when they lose 4 or 5 disgruntled readers. Some of these censor wannabes chide anyone who might post with pen names. One poster hit the nail on the head and it applies to EVERYONE when he wrote:
"I don't respect jerks, BUT, I respect their RIGHT to display their stupidity."
It is sad that Cindy and Dee didn't pass away from old age. Not all choices in life have pleasant outcomes. My wife and I share genuine heartfelt sympathy for Cindy and Dee and both of their families.
Blog bickering, name calling or censoring won't change a thing.
people dont realize drug users can't help themselves. they need to quit being so harsh because of drugs unless they are willing to take the same harsh attitude against fat people, smokers, drinkers, mean husbands, fried food eaters, lazy people who sit around all day pecking on computers or video games and the rest who kill themselves or others from nasty habits
Why don't you go back to your own dipsh*t site and stay off this one. You and your misfits stick to stuff you can handle like the Orchard Hill Christmas tree and leave the hard news to Walter and his pros.
i knew both these ladies and they where good friends of mine my heart goes out to both their families.may they rest in peace.Dee & Cindy i will miss you both a great deal .
I hear people soak the morphine patches in tea or something and then drink it...not saying that's what happened to these two girls, but I have heard of others doing that...makes you wonder what people are thinking. Id be scared to death to do something like that. Addiction is a crazy thing.
If this is in fact drug-related, this can only now serve as a lesson to us all.
Again, condolences to the families and friends of Cindy and Dee, I'm sorry for your loss.
No my brother did not die but I'm pretty sure he felt like it when he found his girlfriend that way. People need to be nice and think about what they are saying before they speak. My brother loved her and he is hurting and I hurt for him and Cindy's family and we will miss her so much. And I did not know Dee but I
my heart aches for her family too.
i dont think that anyone can determine cause of death just by looking at the dead and further more jim smith has not had any good comments to say about most people in lamar county in quite a while maybe its time for some new opinions in this county but you know when you dont vote or take time to investigate the people running for public office then you get what you get. jim smith should be told to keep his personal comments to himself and report in a profesional manner with the job he was elected to do. one more thing when one person is found dead and one at the point of death what reason would emt units have for putting them back in bed and not seek medical attention for the remaining survivors .they should be held accountable for there actions as well . but drugs were mentioned so i guess they just quit caring. they were my freind and damn you jim smith for instantly thinking the worst if it were one of your freinds you would cover it up with the help of others in your click.
. one more thing when one person is found dead and one at the point of death what reason would emt units have for putting them back in bed and not seek medical attention for the remaining survivors .they should be held accountable for there actions as well . but drugs were mentioned so i guess they just quit caring. they were my freind and damn you jim smith for instantly thinking the worst if it were one of your freinds you would cover it up with the help of others in your click.
Wendy, I read several news papers online and they do allow comments to be printed. Our comments are a way to let our politicians know what we think as well as others.
I'm the one who made the original comment earlier, so...
A lot of you need to realize there's a world outside your own homes, neighborhoods, and church. Not everyone will share the same viewpoint, and you only demonstrate your own childishness by typing in CAPS and borderline insulting anyone who has an opposing opinion.
Half of you would have said the same thing if this hadn't happened in your own neck of the woods. Any other drug-abusing duo would've been met with negative comments and remarks about how they were raised, where they're from, etc. It's the same old song with you old birds.
And to those that may've read my first few sentences and started raging behind their own screens, you should've went on to see that I stated their families are the true victims here. I only suggested that the two deviants be forgotten and disregarded.
Why do you hide your name? Are you afraid for people to know whose making such ignorant comments..... Guess you were born and raised in B'ville and you have it all figured out huh.
This is Sheri, Betty's daughter, please tell John we are sorry to hear of his loss. Our hearts go out to him. Cindy and Dee's families are in our prayers.
Folks, do we not have anything better to do? If you have this extra time, volunteer ot help in an adult literacy program or something. I cannot believe some people would speculate and say such things. I bet you would sing a different tune if it were your family member. God bless this family
I knew both Dee and Cindy for many years. I think that the comment that was made by the coroner should not have been made until after the autopsy. That was uncalled for no matter what he thought about them. He better hope that is the cause of death because if it is not, I am sure there will be a lawsuit for a comment like that.
I pray for their children and their families because they are the ones who will have to deal with this horrible situation.
Ms. Ebetino, you desperately need to acquire a pen name for your use or give commenting a break. Please! With every comment you make it shows increased frustation. Why are you yelling at someone who uses ANONYMOUS as their name? Would you have replied if a real name was used? You are more upset by the ANONYMOUS signatures than by the comments.
With all due respect, everyone isn't like you, some want to remain unidentified when they submit bonehead comments. You are acting like some people who stop at a traffic wreck. They can't help out, they don't know the victims, but they hang around just gawking. When they get their fill, they finally get into their automobile and drive away.
You will probably feel compelled to address my signed comment with a nasty remark, I hope not. If it was this 71 year old gawking at these wrecked commentaries, I would push my keyboard back and turn off my computer for the night. It will all look better tomorrow.
BTW: I peruse these comments everyday of the week and have replied only 2 times in the past year. I don't agreee with the majority of the rancid negativity in the comments. However, I am not in favor of any of the posters or their comments being throttled. I just don't reply.
Remember people....these two girls are someones mother, daughter, aunt, sister, girlfriend and even friend, no matter what they've done or were doing. The ones left behind are the ones that are hurting !! Words hurt, especially when a loved one dies and you have people talking and making hurtful comments about them. Please respect the families and pray that they can get through such a horrible situation. The families, I'm sure, would like to remember the good memories they have and not the cruel words spoken of them. People wander why there is so much hate in this world....this is a good example when reading some of these threads. My heart goes out to both families. John, I know you loved Cindy and my heart and many prayers go out to you today !!
I knew both Cindy and Dee........this is truely a very sad situation, and I am praying for both families. In the last year Me and My family have spent alot of time with Cindy and John. John cared very deeply for Cindy and Cindy did him as well, it was very obvious when you were around them. It is very upsetting the speculations that are being written in this Blog. No one knows what has happened except that two people are no longer with us hear on earth. My heart goes out to John and the families and my prayers are going up for all of them. I Hadn't been around Dee very much in the past few years but as I stated earlier I had spent some wonderful and fun and Drug free times with Cindy and John, I will truely miss her, She was a fun loving person and I enjoyed her company, she kept me laughing even when I didn't really want to laugh.
I don't want to comment on any particular comment that was made but unless you really know someone, I don't think it makes since to start gossip and speculations on something you don't have a clue about. I don't know what happened to either of them myself right now.
Someone made a comment about John being thier brother, Please tell John that Doug and I are thinking of him, I have tried to call him and will continue to try.
And just like everyone else this too is my opinion however it is soley based on Facts.
It is not my desire to offend anyone hear but I am hurting for the loss of my friend, so I can only imagine how John and the mothers and the Siblings, and the children are hurting.
I would just like to leave a comment on behalf of my family, the family of Dee Glover, that we appreciate the KIND comments and the thoughts and prayers that we have recieved. For our family's sake, the rumors and comments flying around this website need to stop, we would like people to know that we ourselves don't truly even know what happened that morning. Both of our families are suffering a loss and we need to focus on that. Once again, thank you for the thoughts and prayers, we need them at this time.
I never said anyone had to be like me, I said it was not neccessary for commenting on articles due to the majority of the comments being in poor taste, disrespectful and not based on facts and most people not identifying themselves.
For the record, I do know Cindy and John is my cousin, so no I am not gawking. I don't have any facts and if I had any I would not post them here nor would I post hateful or disprespectful thoughts or opinions on any article. Prayer for them is about all that one can do.
You say you pursue this public display of nonsense weekly, Why? There are far better ways to devote your time that would greatly benefit our society. This is the first time I have commented but not the first time I have felt such sadness over all the garbage. I personally know families that have been affected by this newspaper as well a the Pike Journal Reporter.
I am not a fan of censorship, and I am grateful that we have Soldiers that fight for our Freedom, but I am just sad that this is the way some choose to use theirs.
Not having a comment section would be far better for our society as a whole. Kinda like if the stores not open you can't shop..... Just saying.
Ms. Ebentino, your thoughtful reply is noted. The THG is just one of my windows to the world. I read many online newspapers each day as well as the comments therein. As to WHY? I am homebound and barely mobile due to an incapacitating injury many years ago. Devoting my time to other endeavors would be great, but right now my calendar is full entertaining five lovely grandchildren.
I don't permit inconsequential matters to dictate how I feel or act at any given time. Reading and the Internet are my hobbies.
What is wrong with some of you people. You make me sick. Cindi and Dee were good friends of mine,and I loved them both very much I am deeply saddened by this we have lost to wonderful people. My heart goes out to their families. I am so sorry. :pat brown
I see the other website, long known for attacks on citizens they don't like, is trying to capitalize on the families of the deceaseds' unhappiness with comments made here.
When the coroner makes a statement, it is not a reporter's job to edit it. The newspaper is getting blasted, but the coroner is the source of the "suspected drug use" comment.
If I was a family member, I would be asking the coroner why he is announcing things he "suspects". Don't shoot the messenger.
As for the family, if this was drug related don't expect everyone to be understanding. What we read, whether we like it or not, is a crosssection of public opinion. Welcome to the age of internet. If it wasn't here, there would be another blog or it would be whispered around by some of the town's gossips.
I certainly hope that you and your loved ones are "above" this type of behavior (if indeed drugs are associated with their deaths), and never have a family member that goes astray, or makes one bad decision too many. What will you do, make snide comments anonymously to upset their children, parents, and siblings??? I'll ask you this.......have YOU ever done anything you wish you hadn't? If so.....stop passing judgement on others. You need to be exercising compassion rather than sitting in judgement on others that are not here to defend themselves. You have proven your character through your words here, but unfortunately you are not proud enough of your statements to sign your name to them so that all will know you for who you are!
Sandra,John and families,
My heart hurt's with you all, believe me my family knows just what your family is going through. My brother Bubba and Cindy were BEST Friends and were very very close more like brother's and sister's and people talk in this town they always have and they always will Barnesville will never change. Don't pay any attention to what these careless, heartless people say on this site they most likely don't have a good Heart. When my brother passed people also made comments, It was 17 months after my mother passed away when Bubba passed away he was 44 yrs. old and looking at this sad time it has been exactly 17 months since he passed that our precious Cindy passed at the same age. God is the only one who knows when it is our time to go not anyone else. We Love you all and we will be there to help you through it.
Listen Cindy was my cousin and we all know she wasnt perfect but she was a kind and beautiful person. There was only one perfect person in this world and we hung him on the cross. Who are you to judge someones life. No one can judge her but God himself. And he doesnt look at the outside, He looks at the beautiful heart that she had.We Love and miss you Cindy! Love Your Family!!!!
I knew Cindy somewhat but not Dee. However, my only comment at this time is not speculation but prayer for both families. I will miss Cindy, and I know that John and Cindy's family will too. I did not know Dee, but my prayer's go out to her family, as I know they will miss her too.
Forgotten and disregarded? Are you kidding me? That was just uncommonly cruel. I don't favor censorship but not every opinion we have needs to be shared, even though we certainly have the right to share them.
My father was an alcoholic. He chose alcohol over most everything in life....including me at times but I knew he loved me and I loved him. He passed away a while back. I miss him. His life was worth something to me. My point is, loved ones love the addict in spite of the addiction. To suggest that the addict should be forgotten and disregarded shows complete lack of compassion for the FAMILY of the deceased and that is shameful.
Mama loves you& John and we all know what its like to lose someone we love before their time.I am sure Richard had no idea Mothers Day 2001 would be his last day on this earth.I know he had done some bad things in his life but Im equally sure God forgave him his sins.Its always easy to cast the first stone and we all know that story so remember theres someone who loves you despite others.My heart goes out to Sandra and Cindys children. Every one who knew Cindy knew she was a good and loyal friend to all the people she cared about and I know in my heart she and John loved each other very much and he is devastated by her death.As to all of the misinfomation about thissad tradgedy ,I just ask you all to reserve judgement until you know all the facts and some are incorrect.,and remember that JESUS said, he who is without sin cast the first stone.God Loves us all and sometime were just to blind to see his Love and also he hears and sees everything. Nancy Sullivan Welch
Nancy and Candy,
This is Cindy (John's ex wife). I am so sorry to hear about your loss and your family is in my prayers. I knew Cindy but did not know Dee, but her family is also in my prayers. It's hard to lose a loved one and the people that are being mean on here will find out one day. My heart goes out to all the families that this has affected.
Are you THE famous Becky Watts of online newspaper fame?
Impressive that you could find the time to visit with us all and whine a little bit. I don't recall ever seeing Walt Geiger leave stupid comments on your lame web site. Oh! I forgot you are above allowing anyone to post comments on YOUR site and I suppose that is why I missed his comments.
It seems strange that you felt it necessary to triple tag team Walter with your pals, Heather and Wendy, to feign disgust over some stupid comments? Are you jealous of his success? Oh, BTW it was so sweet of you to run that phony letter to the editor on your lame site from Happy Heather the prolific blogger. Did she promise to buy an ad?
Do you two know how dumb that whole affair is?
Just because your so called online newspaper doesn't do as well as Walter's site doesn't give you cause to go over there and pith and moan with your girls. Y'all continue helping each other to recover from the ordeal of the comments put up by actual readers of a real online newspaper. Remember, you have no control over the actions of others. Just your own. Maybe you should go interview the dummies down at the courthouse.
That should be easy.
You should consider changing your format, quit preaching to Walter and you could get in on the action too. Enough IS Enough.
If you aren't the REAL Becky Watts, please excuse this comment. OK?
tell it like it is reggie. I read this whole thing and I found two comments that kinda sounded like they might of be taken as offense by afamily member. This is a whole lot of crying over nothing. If my daughter and a friend was found dead and had illegal drugs near her I'd expect everyone to reckon she had a drug problem. I damn sure would want the corner and sherriff to tell everyone in case it might save some other life. If they made a mistake it could be corrected later with a we all were wrong statement but I damn sure woul not want to see other people die just to spare my feelings.
I don't think that the problem is the speculation that drugs were involved, but moreso the cruel things said about the dead. The dead people still have families grieving their deaths and don't need insensitive comments on a blog to add to their grief. And for those of you who think the grieving family members are not aware of these blogs, you are wrong. I know of at least one young man very aware of what is being said about his family member and it DOES add to his grief. I don't understand why people can't just hope that these people's friends and fellow addicts may make a life change in the aftermath of these deaths, instead of saying such vile things as the dead should be forgotten and disregarded. What exactly could be gained from such insensitive blogging?
another way you two can look at the Anonymous posts are that some of these people that post like this may hold a position that does not allow them to openly talk about issues or is scared to do so because of a fear of retaliation. Some may be city council member, bank officials, mayor, police, NTF etc. You dont know the circumstances behind the anonymous. Im sure that the most part of comments are stupid, uneducated idiots but I fall into the category of not needing my name splattered all over the web, yet feel like my opinion or point of view is important on some of these topics. There are multiple ways to look at these topics that come up. Just like this paragraph that I'm writing right now. Just keep that in mind before you accuse everyone of being scared or stupid. I have a career to protect and a family to protect. I should still be able to write on this blog without writing my name. Would it make you all feel better if I signed in as Luther. I might as well leave it as anonymous.
I would like to start off by saying that some of you use the word "friend" too loosely. An old man told me years ago that if you live to be 100 years old and you can say that you had 5 frieds, that you had a very blessed life.
There is a difference in being someone's friend and an aquaintance. Ill go out on a limb here and say that if you all are that good of friends with the two then maybe you should be in the investigation.
With that being said, i think that Jim Smith and the rest of team that went there found enough evidence there to think that there may be a chance of drug abuse or use. First of all why would anyone deny that? Secondly these people had front row seats to see behind the scenes. They already said that there was stuff there at the house. Why not add 2 and 2 together. Im sure there are more things that they didnt tell rather than what they did tell.
I hope that this doesnt turn out like the Grove St shooting as the family and friends say "there is no way that he done that. Its a set up." bla bla bla. Listen. Dont be in denial.
We can pray for the families to recover and move on and if this is related to drugs (like im quite sure it is), let this be a teaching tool to inform the children and relatives or non relatives the dangers of drugs.
If it is carbone monoxide related, let that be a teaching tool. Use this time and this scenario to the advantage of informing someone so maybe 5 or more lives can be saved by these.
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Anonymous Luther Anonymous
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10/25/09 at 03:05 PM
You make sense explaining why it is OK to be Anonymous.
I am one of those high officials and I certainly prefer not to have my name displayed. Thanks for your "heads up" approach. I can now join you in adding thoughtful comments without fear of being ridiculed or scorned.
Your post got me to thinking! Is it possible some of those who are so adamantly opposed to anonymous names and want zero comments could actually be posting 'red herring' comments?
That is FOOD for thought of buffet proportions!
Is it possible competitors or someone with a jealous grudge against THG have gone through that dinner line and are pigging out on Red Herring? Some people with the desire to control the lives of others are capable of doing outrageous acts and wait for their just dessert. That sweet morsel would be served only if Walter disallows comments to be made on THG articles.
I will leave a big TIP for the gluttons ...GET A LIFE!
Jan. I read all through this and can find anything all that insensitive. Give me the post numbers of the insensitive posts you are complaining about. I would like to see how bad they are but I cant find them. It seems more to me some people don't want to say their acquantance or family member or whatever might have been doing something wrong even if it might save ten other people. No one likes to see people die but if they die and have drugs they should not have it needs to be put out there. There are now four people dead but reports are only three look like drugs.
I say that if people were such good friends/family then maybe they should have had an intervention. But I guess people have to want help for that to work. I know people should not be judged and I do feel sorry for the young man you are talking about Jan. But look who put him in that position. He shouldn't be dealing with this at all. The people doing drugs should feel bad and step up to the plate. Now that loved ones have died, will the living stop the drug abuse? What will it take? I guess embarrassment to their kids doesn't matter...
I don't condone censorship by the paper, but censorship of one's own fingers on the keyboard and one's own mouth when what they have to post and say serves no useful purpose except to upset the grieving families.
I know one of the family members of the deceased personally. Of course he knew his relative had drug problems. He has read these blogs and they did upset him. To me, one person being hurt further by another insensitive person comments is too many.
I'm not in favor of censorship, and don't think Walter should shut this down. I usually don't read it because I find the majority of comments to be 1) mis-informed, 2) rude, 3) childish, 4) stupid, or 5) all of the above.
Every now and then, someone tells me I should read a particular story and/or comments. I usually do, and I always immediately regret it.
Folks, when you write your comments, please remember that this is the face of Barnesville to many folks. What do you want YOUR town to look like? Maybe try waiting a few minutes before hitting would be beneficial to us all.
I know people involved with the investigation, and a lot of what is said above is simply not factual.
she will be at williams in barnesville. th efuneral is in griffin at the deliverince center. if any of her friends ride bikes please ride them to the funeral
I hate to break it to you but Jim Smith is one of the GOOD public officials in the county. Considering that there are not many that can be called "good", then I would say Mr. Smith deserves commendation not inflammatory statements.
Besides, someone who can't spell certainly has no business damning or trying to dictate how a "professional" like Mr. Smith should conduct his job duties.
I think nearly all of the comments are appropriate. Drugs are a problem, and if drugs are the suspected cause it needs to be out there right away so everyone learns what drugs can do. I think the police, the coroner, and the newspaper did the best thing for the community. They 100% have my support.
This is Penny and Bobby Kunst and we would like to say how sorry we are to our old friend, John Pope!! Our heart's and prayer's go out to you man, even though we have not seen each other in a while now, we're here for you if need us!! We would also like to extend our condolescences to both the ladies' families',may God be with you all now more than ever!! In time, every thing will be known, so everybody needs to respectthe family's privacy, so they can focus on what they need to do and grieve!! Sincerely, Penny & Bobby Kunst
So one post, number 32, in your judgment lacked sensitivity. Calling deceased victims of drug abuse a "deviant" is probably going too far but no reason for so much outrage.
The real anger here is probably family and so-called friends being mad at themselves for thinking they did not do all they could have done to get them off drugs. Denial runs longer and more powerful than a river in Egypt.
#93 i think u need to just stop all of the crap u r talking,u dont know what the cause was.. all u r hearin & talking about is rumors just like the rest of the dummies in this town......u dont know the facts, so just shut-------up
#90 i just think it is strange,that for someone being around anther... screwing around with them he could have paid his last respects to the faimly........(mr. jim smith) yah what a good he does... ha..ha...
Our family too suffered a tragedy that was printed in this paper. The users of this
forum could put it to better use by encouraging and supporting the hurting families instead of bashing and gossiping!
For those of you who feel the need to judge and condemn the deceased, I have just one thing to say...if death is handed out as a punishment for poor decision making, we would all be in trouble. Have a nice day..may God be with their family.
it may be alot of truth in the comments but dont you think all this should have been said the Cindy and Dee when they were sill with us...dont you think that maybe just maybe if all the feelins in here was told to them before this happened that it just might have changed the outcome of this... you never know until you try.... but if all the people on here that want to talk about Cindy, Dee and Randy's drug habits had said something to them along time ago maybe just maybe they might have sit down and looked at what they were doing and would have seen all the people that would stand by them while they got help....dont you think just maybe they might have tried it or at least you could then say "I tried to help them but they didnt want my help!" Then and only then is when you all would have a right to bad mouth them for what they done with them life! He** 1/2 of the people on here could be the ones they done thier durgs with.....
I knew neither one of the 4 that died, but my heart goes out to the families..I too have a son on drugs too, it breaks my heart and it's a hard road to go if they don't want help and a battle everyday for the families...I'm sure there families knew too but it breaks my heart to read the stuff some of you cold hearted people have wrote, but yes i too would like to know the cause of the deaths but bad mouthing helps nothing but puts more hurt on the loved ones...Don't you think if the families could have help this from happening they would have?? this is very sad...just remember everyone it could be knocking on your door at any time so don't think it can't...you can sit there and say what you would or wouldn't do but until you've walked in them shoes you DON"T know what you would do...they should take all the drug dealers and put honey on them and drop them in a big ant bed and make them suffer just like there families do...i have seen drugs take everything my son had and now all he thinks of is how he can get more, but yes that's the choice he made too, but until you have been so scared for the phone to ring thinking it's something bad happened to your child or loved ones you just don't know...we would probly all be surprised if we knew all the people that was on this crap..i don't live in barnesville (but in next town) but i do have a scanner i listen to 24-7 and from what i hear the law in Lamar County does a great job...you can just do so much with what they have to work with...PLEASE think of the families of these people and what you say and how it makes them feel...
I think that is bull. These people werent gonna change for anyone. What do you think Billy would think about this (Cindy)if he were still alive. I think he knew it was just a matter of time.
These folks lived their life style for their own selfish pleasure and didnt think about anyone it affected.
As far as the man that died, i think complaints was made about his whole distribution center on Johnston st a few times. It was just a matter of time before they threw the book at him. He had more people there like a drive thru than Mcdonalds does. In and out... in and out.. in and out...
most people aren't overwhelmed with sympathy when people abuse drugs or alcohol and get themselves in a fix. you cant blame them for that viewpoint any more than we can blame a person for getting caught up in a vice that kills them.
I was not responding to specific posts but #7 would be an example. There are many people reading this article, forming opinions based on very narrow viewpoints...they may not post their opinions. I was addressing them. Read carefully.
you are really stupid. Dee was my aunt i hope you die with an overdose just for sayin stupid stuff like that and that goes to all you stupid anonymous people out there who have posted something that cold on here. screw yourself. ad get a life.
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This is so horrible.
Use Dee and Cindy as an example of what not to become.
boom last night (Wednesday) aroung 9pm?
What was it? Sounded like a loud explosion.
A terrible thing.
My condolences to the friends and families.
It is very sad to hear of these two lives lost. I will pray for the families comfort.
There are kids involved and a hurting family. Perhaps people should be more concerned about reaching out to those hurting than vomiting their viewpoints on those who are already devastated.
To the family, you're in my prayers, and we've got people across the nation praying for you. I can't imagine the loss.
I love this site. The HG does a great job.
too "disgusting", read the news articles and bypass the comments. Everyone is FREE to exercise their RIGHT not to participate. Maybe those who feel the same as you, should seek a publication where everyone's opinion and thinking are exactly as your own. Accept the fact there are crass and rude people in this world and they do things different.
It would be a sad day for this area if Mr. Geiger decided to print only ONE VIEW from a chosen segment of local society. All you have to do, is witness the media control coming from the tyrants in the White House. Do you favor censorship?
I dislike the insensitive words printed about these dead women.
I don't respect jerks, BUT, I respect their RIGHT to display their stupidity.
Thank You,
Rev. TBK, Sr.
Then we feel the need to evaluate the story and throw our two cents in when we don't always have the full story. All too often, we don't even bother to think about family and friends who will be affected by our words.
To those who have said words of kindness, thank you for thinking of others and treating them as you would want to be treated.
As for the rest, I have said before that there is no accountability when a name is not required to go with the editorial. The ultimate responsibility for this lies with the newspaper that provides this forum.
We have seen families and friends rip each other to shreds in front of everyone on this and the Pike Journal blog site. People are casting judgement here when the facts aren't out and even if the story turns out to be true, who are we to cast our judgement on those who are left behind?
Walter, I ask again, when is enough goung to be enough?
Walter, I say again, keep up the good work!
They have spoken again, again, and again,..
I thought they were above this fray and wanted all opinions removed from news articles. Yet, these "ladies" seem to be fine when they are allowed to post comments bashing anyone who doesn't agree with "them".
It seems very peculiar to me. These same "ladies" who display such adamant opinionated stances favoring full censorship, have themselves gotten undressed and jumped right in to wallow in the commentary mudhole with the rest of the postulating porcines.
If they are so incensed, why don't they utter some ..tsks..tsks..to themselves and leave the nasty pig pen? They hang around registering their displeasure in the very comment area they want removed.
I hope Mr. Geiger's fine newspaper businesses don't suffer profit wise when they lose 4 or 5 disgruntled readers. Some of these censor wannabes chide anyone who might post with pen names. One poster hit the nail on the head and it applies to EVERYONE when he wrote:
"I don't respect jerks, BUT, I respect their RIGHT to display their stupidity."
It is sad that Cindy and Dee didn't pass away from old age. Not all choices in life have pleasant outcomes. My wife and I share genuine heartfelt sympathy for Cindy and Dee and both of their families.
Blog bickering, name calling or censoring won't change a thing.
Calvin Nathan Alcars
Again, condolences to the families and friends of Cindy and Dee, I'm sorry for your loss.
my heart aches for her family too.
Like the REV said, people are pigs sometimes.
My heart goes out to the Family. Their unanswered questions and the pain and suffering have only begun.
A lot of you need to realize there's a world outside your own homes, neighborhoods, and church. Not everyone will share the same viewpoint, and you only demonstrate your own childishness by typing in CAPS and borderline insulting anyone who has an opposing opinion.
Half of you would have said the same thing if this hadn't happened in your own neck of the woods. Any other drug-abusing duo would've been met with negative comments and remarks about how they were raised, where they're from, etc. It's the same old song with you old birds.
And to those that may've read my first few sentences and started raging behind their own screens, you should've went on to see that I stated their families are the true victims here. I only suggested that the two deviants be forgotten and disregarded.
And I'm not cruel; I'm just... contemporary.
This is Sheri, Betty's daughter, please tell John we are sorry to hear of his loss. Our hearts go out to him. Cindy and Dee's families are in our prayers.
I pray for their children and their families because they are the ones who will have to deal with this horrible situation.
With all due respect, everyone isn't like you, some want to remain unidentified when they submit bonehead comments. You are acting like some people who stop at a traffic wreck. They can't help out, they don't know the victims, but they hang around just gawking. When they get their fill, they finally get into their automobile and drive away.
You will probably feel compelled to address my signed comment with a nasty remark, I hope not. If it was this 71 year old gawking at these wrecked commentaries, I would push my keyboard back and turn off my computer for the night. It will all look better tomorrow.
BTW: I peruse these comments everyday of the week and have replied only 2 times in the past year. I don't agreee with the majority of the rancid negativity in the comments. However, I am not in favor of any of the posters or their comments being throttled. I just don't reply.
Have a good night,
Marvin Thigpen
I don't want to comment on any particular comment that was made but unless you really know someone, I don't think it makes since to start gossip and speculations on something you don't have a clue about. I don't know what happened to either of them myself right now.
Someone made a comment about John being thier brother, Please tell John that Doug and I are thinking of him, I have tried to call him and will continue to try.
And just like everyone else this too is my opinion however it is soley based on Facts.
It is not my desire to offend anyone hear but I am hurting for the loss of my friend, so I can only imagine how John and the mothers and the Siblings, and the children are hurting.
I never said anyone had to be like me, I said it was not neccessary for commenting on articles due to the majority of the comments being in poor taste, disrespectful and not based on facts and most people not identifying themselves.
For the record, I do know Cindy and John is my cousin, so no I am not gawking. I don't have any facts and if I had any I would not post them here nor would I post hateful or disprespectful thoughts or opinions on any article. Prayer for them is about all that one can do.
You say you pursue this public display of nonsense weekly, Why? There are far better ways to devote your time that would greatly benefit our society. This is the first time I have commented but not the first time I have felt such sadness over all the garbage. I personally know families that have been affected by this newspaper as well a the Pike Journal Reporter.
I am not a fan of censorship, and I am grateful that we have Soldiers that fight for our Freedom, but I am just sad that this is the way some choose to use theirs.
Not having a comment section would be far better for our society as a whole. Kinda like if the stores not open you can't shop..... Just saying.
I don't permit inconsequential matters to dictate how I feel or act at any given time. Reading and the Internet are my hobbies.
Have a good day.
Marvin Thigpen
When the coroner makes a statement, it is not a reporter's job to edit it. The newspaper is getting blasted, but the coroner is the source of the "suspected drug use" comment.
If I was a family member, I would be asking the coroner why he is announcing things he "suspects". Don't shoot the messenger.
As for the family, if this was drug related don't expect everyone to be understanding. What we read, whether we like it or not, is a crosssection of public opinion. Welcome to the age of internet. If it wasn't here, there would be another blog or it would be whispered around by some of the town's gossips.
My heart hurt's with you all, believe me my family knows just what your family is going through. My brother Bubba and Cindy were BEST Friends and were very very close more like brother's and sister's and people talk in this town they always have and they always will Barnesville will never change. Don't pay any attention to what these careless, heartless people say on this site they most likely don't have a good Heart. When my brother passed people also made comments, It was 17 months after my mother passed away when Bubba passed away he was 44 yrs. old and looking at this sad time it has been exactly 17 months since he passed that our precious Cindy passed at the same age. God is the only one who knows when it is our time to go not anyone else. We Love you all and we will be there to help you through it.
My father was an alcoholic. He chose alcohol over most everything in life....including me at times but I knew he loved me and I loved him. He passed away a while back. I miss him. His life was worth something to me. My point is, loved ones love the addict in spite of the addiction. To suggest that the addict should be forgotten and disregarded shows complete lack of compassion for the FAMILY of the deceased and that is shameful.
This is Cindy (John's ex wife). I am so sorry to hear about your loss and your family is in my prayers. I knew Cindy but did not know Dee, but her family is also in my prayers. It's hard to lose a loved one and the people that are being mean on here will find out one day. My heart goes out to all the families that this has affected.
Are you THE famous Becky Watts of online newspaper fame?
Impressive that you could find the time to visit with us all and whine a little bit. I don't recall ever seeing Walt Geiger leave stupid comments on your lame web site. Oh! I forgot you are above allowing anyone to post comments on YOUR site and I suppose that is why I missed his comments.
It seems strange that you felt it necessary to triple tag team Walter with your pals, Heather and Wendy, to feign disgust over some stupid comments? Are you jealous of his success? Oh, BTW it was so sweet of you to run that phony letter to the editor on your lame site from Happy Heather the prolific blogger. Did she promise to buy an ad?
Do you two know how dumb that whole affair is?
Just because your so called online newspaper doesn't do as well as Walter's site doesn't give you cause to go over there and pith and moan with your girls. Y'all continue helping each other to recover from the ordeal of the comments put up by actual readers of a real online newspaper. Remember, you have no control over the actions of others. Just your own. Maybe you should go interview the dummies down at the courthouse.
That should be easy.
You should consider changing your format, quit preaching to Walter and you could get in on the action too. Enough IS Enough.
If you aren't the REAL Becky Watts, please excuse this comment. OK?
Is my name big enough?
REGGIE CHATSWORTH
There is a difference in being someone's friend and an aquaintance. Ill go out on a limb here and say that if you all are that good of friends with the two then maybe you should be in the investigation.
With that being said, i think that Jim Smith and the rest of team that went there found enough evidence there to think that there may be a chance of drug abuse or use. First of all why would anyone deny that? Secondly these people had front row seats to see behind the scenes. They already said that there was stuff there at the house. Why not add 2 and 2 together. Im sure there are more things that they didnt tell rather than what they did tell.
I hope that this doesnt turn out like the Grove St shooting as the family and friends say "there is no way that he done that. Its a set up." bla bla bla. Listen. Dont be in denial.
We can pray for the families to recover and move on and if this is related to drugs (like im quite sure it is), let this be a teaching tool to inform the children and relatives or non relatives the dangers of drugs.
If it is carbone monoxide related, let that be a teaching tool. Use this time and this scenario to the advantage of informing someone so maybe 5 or more lives can be saved by these.
I am one of those high officials and I certainly prefer not to have my name displayed. Thanks for your "heads up" approach. I can now join you in adding thoughtful comments without fear of being ridiculed or scorned.
Your post got me to thinking! Is it possible some of those who are so adamantly opposed to anonymous names and want zero comments could actually be posting 'red herring' comments?
That is FOOD for thought of buffet proportions!
Is it possible competitors or someone with a jealous grudge against THG have gone through that dinner line and are pigging out on Red Herring? Some people with the desire to control the lives of others are capable of doing outrageous acts and wait for their just dessert. That sweet morsel would be served only if Walter disallows comments to be made on THG articles.
I will leave a big TIP for the gluttons ...GET A LIFE!
A. L. A.
I don't condone censorship by the paper, but censorship of one's own fingers on the keyboard and one's own mouth when what they have to post and say serves no useful purpose except to upset the grieving families.
I know one of the family members of the deceased personally. Of course he knew his relative had drug problems. He has read these blogs and they did upset him. To me, one person being hurt further by another insensitive person comments is too many.
Every now and then, someone tells me I should read a particular story and/or comments. I usually do, and I always immediately regret it.
Folks, when you write your comments, please remember that this is the face of Barnesville to many folks. What do you want YOUR town to look like? Maybe try waiting a few minutes before hitting would be beneficial to us all.
I know people involved with the investigation, and a lot of what is said above is simply not factual.
(signed)
a saddened resident of Lamar
Besides, someone who can't spell certainly has no business damning or trying to dictate how a "professional" like Mr. Smith should conduct his job duties.
The real anger here is probably family and so-called friends being mad at themselves for thinking they did not do all they could have done to get them off drugs. Denial runs longer and more powerful than a river in Egypt.
i am very sorry for everyones losses.
forum could put it to better use by encouraging and supporting the hurting families instead of bashing and gossiping!
These folks lived their life style for their own selfish pleasure and didnt think about anyone it affected.
As far as the man that died, i think complaints was made about his whole distribution center on Johnston st a few times. It was just a matter of time before they threw the book at him. He had more people there like a drive thru than Mcdonalds does. In and out... in and out.. in and out...