Pilots were distracted by personal laptops, cockpit conversation

Pilots were distracted by personal laptops, cockpit conversation

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Tuesday, October 27. 2009

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The Northwest Pilots who overshot a Minnesota runway by 150 miles last week told investigators they were using their personal laptops in the cockpit, a violation of company policy, according to a National Transportation Safety Board advisory.

For clarification, let's restate that. The Northwest Pilots who OVERSHOT a Minnesota runway by 150 MILES last week told investigators they were using their personal laptops in the cockpit, a VIOLATION OF COMPANY POLICY, according to a National Transportation Safety Board advisory.

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#1 Anonymous on 10/27/09 at 07:46 AM

Mistakes happen. They knew the aircraft was safe and got lost in conversation. These aircrafts are designed to basically fly themselves. Yeah it's stupid that they overshot the airfield that far and be punished per the policy, but there is no message to the pilots. No one can act like they have never missed their exit while driving because they were talking to someone in the passenger seat. Same thing, except with a bigger vehicle.

#2 Call N. Alcars on 10/27/09 at 09:59 AM

Andrew, you are being extremely kind and most generous in characterizing the crews's actions simply as they "OVERSHOT THE RUNWAY".

These non-vigilant flyboys weren't landing so they couldn't have "overshot the runway" by 150 miles...that crew MISSED their DESTINATION airport by 150 miles at 36,000 feet altitude.

'In aeronautical terms: "To overshoot a runway" is to cause an aircraft to fly or taxi too far along a runway during landing or taking off, or of an aircraft to fly or taxi too far along a runway.'

Andrew, you are a very sincere and passionate "green" person. Therefore, if I ever "overshoot" and accidently kill someone with my Glock 21, It would be a relief if you were the jury foreman at my trial. yes suh.

My advice to the pilots: Get ample sleep while on suspension. You will need strength and alertness working your new jobs. As baggage handlers,
you will have to be alert and wide awake as you toss luggage into the belly of the planes you will never fly again.

Call N. Alcars, Capt.
Chief Pilot
Hot-Air Lines

#3 Sheila Tolley on 10/27/09 at 10:45 AM

Where are all you stupid people coming from? I never missed an exit while flying a plane loaded with customers at 30,000 feet, have you? These planes are designed to fly themselves??? Then let the head stewardess crank it up and land it and let all the pilots quit and play with Facebook. The tickets would be much cheaper and the pilots can look at the sky while they are cutting your grass and say, "I flew one of those years ago."

#4 Anonymous on 10/27/09 at 11:18 AM

Sheila I really don't understand what I could have possibly said to offend you in such a way where your first few words were calling me stupid. If I were to go back to your numerous posts over this blog and take them personally to the point where I was ready to make derogatory remarks based on a person's opinion then I'm sure I could think of plenty other words than "stupid" to reply with. To take someone's simple opinion about something that really neither one of us has the correct backing to be opinionated about anyway and call them "stupid" for that opinion is very low class.

However, I am sorry if my opinion did hit a personal nerve to properly receive that remark.

#5 Sheila Tolley on 10/27/09 at 11:38 AM

Don't get all mushy over a simple 6 letter word. Stand your ground...boy, girl! This is America. Call me stupid back. I can take it. Does anti-logical, logical challenged, sound better. Voice your opinion before obama takes that too. We should all send the newspapers a letter for allowing us to voice our opinions. If it softens the blow any....obama is more stupid than you. Hugs&Kisses............Sheila

I can be opinionated about anything I please. And I am.

#6 Enoc Siuol on 10/27/09 at 12:05 PM

Shelia.....Girl....You're a real piece of work!

#7 Sheila Tolley on 10/27/09 at 12:21 PM

Where is my cup of joe? I am falling asleep and cannot stay awake to answer all these stupid people.....

#8 Call N. Alcars on 10/27/09 at 12:58 PM

I finally agree with our often errant offerer Enoc! Being SMART and OPINIONATED is what makes Sheila a GOOD 'real piece of work.'

#9 cats on 10/27/09 at 01:28 PM

I do a lot of flying and am married to an aircraft mechanic. I'm of the impression that the planes are able to land themselves if need be, but in no way, shape or form is anything these pilots did OK.
I am appalled that the pilots were that lackadaisical about the lives of possibly 200 passengers and crew. There is nothing remotely OK about what happened on this flight.
New rules, Pilots, your laptops are to be handed over to the flight attendants when you board and you will get them back as you disembark. You obviously cannot be trusted with your toys.
Call N., I don't even want these "pilots" smashing my luggage for me, I will only trust my suitcase to the baggage smashers who have been trained to do that particular job.

#10 L.T. on 10/27/09 at 02:19 PM

One could only hope to be half as witty as you, my favorite belle... hugs & kisses...and you know they are for real...love ya...

#11 Call N. Alcars on 10/27/09 at 02:35 PM

cats wrote....I will only trust my suitcase to the baggage smashers who have been trained to do that particular job.
********
cats, that was very good! You pass with an A+

Professor Alcars

#12 GM on 10/27/09 at 04:55 PM

I think we will never know what really happened. The pilots are needed to get the planes up and down and deal with any emergencies. Actually, the plane will basically fly and navigate itself. The cockpit is full of all sorts of lights, bells and whistles to alert the crew. It will even talk to them when some things get out of sorts. I don't think two experienced pilots can be lulled away at the same time. Their training is too intense and the professional standards are so high.

Has anyone considered an alien abduction or perhaps a new triangle is materializing over the mid west? Perhaps it was a mile high initiation gone wrong or maybe it was that last great act of defiance? It could have been a short union strike? I can’t buy double laptop use unless they were possibly texting each other. If that be the case then it must be Fox News’s fault or George Bush. Obama is star-gazing the situation while he considers legalizing pot for new tax revenue generation so I’m sure we will have an answer soon. Why I’ve heard that a few members of the house are behind closed and locked doors now smoking …. I mean working on a bill to prevent it and it won’t add one dime to the debt.

#13 H B on 10/27/09 at 05:55 PM

I dont understand the facination with lap tops, cell phones, and the like. I have each, I use them when I need them, but I cannot look upon them as a toy.
Someone with responsibility that an airline pilot has, should be more responsible to themselves, their job, and their passengers.
Termination for this action would be appropriate.
Texting train engineers, included.

#14 Blessed on 10/27/09 at 06:21 PM

I would not want to be in there care! When you have lives in your hands you should be more attentive...

#15 Sheila Tolley on 10/27/09 at 07:49 PM

Hi Bro......where is Moses? Pa said you had him last. Ma asked are you gonna be home for suppa?
Timey and Miss Alma (my Jack Russell and cat) both need a'feedin. So will you feed them for me? I love you...............Sis

#16 Sheila Tolley on 10/27/09 at 07:55 PM

I love you too Lamar. You are my favorite man. Don't tell Enoch and Alcars. They think I love them. The truth is that I am really very, very FICKLE.

#17 Sheila Tolley on 10/27/09 at 08:05 PM

To Alcars and GM..............I took a vote. 100% agree that you need to also post your comments to The Pike County Journal. I am having a hard time firing them up. Will you comply with the vote????

#18 Call N. Alcars on 10/27/09 at 08:57 PM

Looks like moses was adopted by the Buick family...Moses P. Buick

Bro Call

#19 Kandy Kaine on 10/28/09 at 10:27 AM

Sheila, I don't want to appear presumptious, BUT, maybe Alcars and GM find it difficult to penetrate the dullness factor exhibited by the bloggers on The PCJ-R. Only so much can be blogged regarding court cases involving unattractive alleged murderesses and HOT alleged sodomites.

There are hordes of dullard bloggers residing between the Flint River and Potato Creek bordered by Spalding and Upson County lines.
Most of those bloggers seem to be from the same household with the same mindset. It appears to me that Alcars and GM require myriads of stimulating topics to bring out their well thought blogs.

Reading various PCJ-R blogs, it seems most bloggers are fascinated by that good looking Sheriff Jimmy Thomas. In a similiar way, bloggers on THG admire our handsome Sheriff Waller and his well trained deputies.

Sheila, we know Lyin O'Bama stole your slogan: "We are FIRED up and READY to GO." So, you GO, get READY and FIRE your blogging guns.
It only takes one purty cowgirl like you to mind that herd of Pike pikers.

There are rumors of a very obscure online newspaper somewhere over in the Zebulon area, but I can't seem to locate it. I understand it is sickly and needs some medical attention. Maybe that venue is in need of many doses of Blog Tonic to make it strong enough to get back on its feet.

I believe it is run by a gent named Pecky Twatts. Do you blog there?
Is it fun? Are they intelligent? Let us know the URL so we all can help.

I've heard the PCJ-R is in good health needing NO Blog Tonic dosing.

My name is ANONYMOUS, but for you Sheila, I will always be your:

Kandy Kaine

#20 Bubba Guum on 10/28/09 at 01:32 PM

I could have summed it up for you much quicker and with a whole lot less rambling... We {Pike County} simply have more class, Less thugs, less rednecks and more intellegence...

#21 spy... on 10/28/09 at 01:56 PM

You sound like that "4.0 GPA" idiot....

#22 Kandy Kaine on 10/28/09 at 05:51 PM

Another Piker chews on Kandy Kaine! Bubba Gump doesn't swallow sweet Kandy, so he quickly hawks out his loogies of "less rambling".

Bubba starts with 'could have', as his key words and according to the Pikers Abridged Dictionary, "could have" is derived from 'coulda, woulda, and shoulda'. He clearly demonstrates his Piker writing ability.

Bubba continued to show his 'abilities' with improper usage of two ellipses in his hastily worded summation. Ellipses? Look it up in the Pikers Dictionary. Oh! on second thought, you should use Websters Dictionary. BTW: Is it Websters 'intelligence' or Pikers "intellegence"?

Bubba's displayed "more intellegence" (sic) when he "summed it up" by using a mere 31 words of his vast 50 word Piker vocabulary

Bubba can learn to like a long round sweet thing, so I'll forever be HIS:

Kandy Kaine

#23 Sheila Tolley on 10/28/09 at 07:26 PM

Brother Cal....you do not fool me. Ma said we need to 'up your meds', I told her I stuck them up there last time and they still don't work.

#24 Sheila Tolley on 10/28/09 at 07:34 PM

ALLRIGHT!!! Go Bubba GUUM..................Are you helping me fire them up???

CHIKKA BOOM...
CHIKKA BOOM...
CHIKKA BOOM.. BOOM..BOOM

.......Update.....Test Results..................
Kandy Kaine failed the test to blog in Pike County. He, She, or it will be able to test again after six months.

#25 Hard Working GC Student on 10/28/09 at 08:15 PM

You sound like that "4.0 GPA" idiot.... Sound like?

Huh? What? When? Where? Sound? Stereo? I don't get it. I read the same comment as you did and I'm sorry, BUT, I didn't hear a peep!

I don't know how Kandy Kaine might sound, but, if Kandy looks as good as her writing, that girl has to be a beautiful buxom BABE!

Oh! Duh me! I get it now. You have one of those expensive software programs that convert text to speech for the visually impaired.

Those great programs allow persons with visual disadvantages to "hear" text via a synthesized voice. Those applications can also be used by those possessing superior visual acuity, yet have non existent reading capabilities.

Many colleges use the same technology in furtherance of redneck reading comprehension. For instance, most rural redneck GC students read on a 4th grade level, especially the Pikers. By using the computerized voices in all areas of study, it has reduced the cumulative redneck student fail rate by a generous 10%. Unfortunately, the redneck Piker student fail rate was a measly 2%. That is hardly progress!

I recommend you purchase the CD version of 'Psycholinguistics' by John Field. You probably can't afford to buy it, so check out the CD at the library. When you hit the cot tonight in your single wide, turn on your kerosene lamp and listen patiently until your Bud Lite lulls you to sleep. Then you can lazily "git" up early for some good ol' deer huntin'.

HWGCS
STILL working on that elusive 4.0 GPA

#26 Bubba Gumm on 10/29/09 at 06:56 AM

You really do need to take that psy101 class 4.0 , Kandy Kaine...whatever you are calling yourself these days... It seems to me that someone else has already told you before that you are just not too smart...

#27 Rev. Jesse Sharpton on 10/29/09 at 10:27 AM

Brother Bubba Gumm Disease, Peace! Peace is the WORD.

Hostility, jealousy and anger are rampant in your meager posts.
I can help you with a one-on-one session. I can put it straight to you. Contact me at: www.jessesharpton.org/helpingredneckpikers

Rev. Jesse Sharpton
The Rainbow Coercion

#28 Lolly Pop on 10/29/09 at 02:18 PM

Sharpton + P.C.= YIKES...The rally starts and stops @ Hilltop...

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