The ninth anniversary of the 9-11 terrorist attacks was observed Friday with a Woodmen of the World patriotic tribute to the victims and a dedication of a flag pole at the Fine Arts Center to the late Britton Cauthen.
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I was at work on 9/11, I remember pretty much everybody stopped what they were doing and gathered around a TV in one of the offices. Today I will go to work for a couple hours and after that, me and my daughter will put a LOT of rounds down range.
I have worked for the Department of Defense since I was 17 years old. I’m 56 now. I’ve had the opportunity to see just about anything imaginable. I remember 9/11 very well and exactly where I was and even what I said when it happened. I am truly grateful that we had a real Commander in Chief in George Bush occupying the White House when it occurred. I’m quite sure that those guilty of the attack didn’t expect the retaliation it got from the United States and I often wonder what the response would have been had someone such as Obama or some other “make love not war” liberal been in charge.
I would imagine that those responsible for the attack that day on the United States felt similar to Japanese Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto after the attack on Pearl Harbor when afterwards he said something to the effect of, “I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve”. Yes they did again on 9/11! But isn’t it truly despicable how quick the American people can go back in to slumber land. You can bet everything the own now or will own in the future that another attack is on the drawing board. Eventually it will happen. Perhaps you will not be there when in does
I salute you President George Bush. Thank you for protecting our country.
I remember the day well. I was in high school then, sitting in class when Mr. Bacon came over the system to turn on the classroom TVs. How naive I was then. As I sat there thinking "How could someone do this to us" I remember feeling hatred toward "the middle east" It didn't matter who it was. Afghanistan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, I felt hatred.
Now, I know what really happened that day. Now, I as I sit here I feel that same hatred. Not for the middle east and their "weapons of mass destruction" but for our government. The same government that attacked us that day. I'll never forget the day that I sat in school and watched American people be attacked by the American government.
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Maybe it's your asphalt
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09/11/10 at 08:58 PM
Please explain how it was a government cover up. I bet you're listening to the Cynthia McKinney talk show again.
If you blame it on Bush, you may as well blame it on Clinton too. Didn't he have an opportunity to take out Bin Laden after the bombing of the USS Cole or the US embassay (forgot which country in Africa)?
If you blame it on Clinton, shouldn't you pass the buck down to "Daddy" Bush and Reagan? The US did train Bin Laden to fight in order to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan.
But if you blame them, can't you go back and blame Hitler? Had we not fought in WWII, perhaps the Cold War wouldn't have started.
See, it's really Hitler's fault. (As absurd as this is, at least I attempt to offer some logic rather than spouting what I hear from the TV.)
Good jobs Barnesville and Lamar County Firefighters, Mid Georgia Ambulance, United States Armed Forces, New York City Fire Department and New York City Police Department and Republican party. Support our firefighters and ems.
Where was you when Bush made hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans? Where was you when the U.S created the earthquake that hit Haiti? I bet when you stump your toe on the coffee table, you believe some government black ops team sneaked into your house and moved the coffee table two inches. Just so you would hit your toe on it, causing you severe brain damage.
WE know who you are. WE know where you live. WE know you are reading this right now, sitting at your computer. Do not try to figure out how WE know all of this. You think that WE do not know about you, knowing about US. WE have known about your "activities" for quite some time. You may know about US, but you do not know who WE are. You should be very careful what you say because WE are monitoring.
Yes, we were definitely blessed that obama was not on office. I wish Americans would ban together and get the respect back that our Veterans and current military fight for. I think the downslide hill started with the elimination of the draft.
9/11 was a successful mass murder on unarmed civilian Americans by a bunch of terrorists. May they all burn in Hell that planned and carried out the plan.
ur president had thousands of people killed for his own political gain and for that thousands of soldiers lost their lives and innocent iraqi men..women..and children lost theirs.
Yeah! Bigfoot is roaming around the swamps of Lamar County. People are lost in the Bermuda triangle because they are abducted by people from the lost city of Atlantis. UFOs can be contributed to a future invasion from another planet and that invasion is being kept quite by our government to prevent riots. And, the Loc Ness monster is really an extinct plesiosaur that keeps itself hidden to prevent its own extinction by man. Finally; you wasted your time in school and if you attended college, it was probably Berkeley.
Since you have worked for the Dept of Defense for many years, enlighten us on why they chose to attack on 9/11. You should be very familiar with US foreign policy.
Its important to remember that these few radical crazies that attacked us on 9/11 were not looking for a military battle. Their goal was not just to kill 3000 Americans. It was to bring America down. And they have done their work. Americans have turned on each other. Our economy is in the dump.
9/11 should remind us to come together as a nation...all Americans (whether Christian or not).
Funny! 9/11 and George Bush brought people together as a nation. Liberal politicians started to slowly tear it back apart. Lack of intelligence and education on the part of the American people allow it. Liberals thrive on overpowering the not so smart. You were all told this was going to be a long war. Now all your unity and patriotism to America has been washed away by a pathetic commander in chief and liberal congressional leadership whose only intention is to stay in power while providing you false promises.
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confused by an idiot....are you really alive
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09/12/10 at 12:29 PM
damn....if you are that stupid i'm confused on how you were able to type word. or did you have someone else do it? please contact nasa. their job is to explore space.....and believe me there is a vast space between your ears.
He didn't make katrina hit. However, he knew the storm was coming and failed to get the people that didn't have the means to get themselves out. (MONEY) He should have signed some type of emergency bill to get those people out! But he didn't beacuse he doesn't care about anybody including you! Why do you think he was in Florida when Sept. 11 happend? Because he knew!!!! He kept reading a book when they told him! You people are so blind but you will soon see the light.
Please enlighten us with your wisdom oh keeper of secrets. Tell us all how and why our Government did this. Please correct my backwards thinking on this subject.
The day that someone can explain how two building can perfectly implode into their own foot patterns and how a third building can do the same simple from debris flying, thats the day I will believe the government had nothing to do with the bombings.
Those people had the means to get out, most CHOSE to stay disregarding the warnings. Then what did they do after wards? They looted and pillaged and got mad because the guvments teet was not there for them to suckle.
To 6.2.1,
Heck.....you don't even know your name. If you do, you lack the balls to say it. You are dazed and confused. No help for you.
And to 6.1.1
At some point people have to take responsibility for themselves. If you prop your butt on a hot stove are you going to move it or wait for someone to tell you to then wait for assistance. You people have got to be the biggest idiots in the world.
And to 6.2.1
Are you an engineer. I didn't think so. I knew you weren't. Because you are a moron.
I really didn't think people could be this stupid until they started comments on this site.
Sheila,
We are wasting our energy for we are trying to communicate with the brain dead. Good effort though. Rather than get your blood in a boil....just ignore them. One good bit of advice from me to you is that you can't argue with an idiot.
Which party has a war going on against Muslim Americans? Gay Americans? any American that is not Southern Baptist? This is a bigger threat than anything overseas.
The third building was taken down with controlled demolition. The WTC buildings were full of asbestos and repair cost more than the buildings were worth. The owner had them insured for more than they were worth and made lots of money. I dont know if that is a conspiracy however there is always more than what they tell the public.
Our family of 4 was on a plane on the way to Charleston, to spend the day wandering around, enjoying the city and planning a tour of Patriot's Point.
The flight attendants got silent, the pilot was silent, and the airport was silent when we landed. On a TV in a lounge in the Charleston airport, we learned what had happenened.
We ended up spending the day in Charleston and then driving our rental car back to Atlanta.
My child is currently in the Gulf of Aden, on a mission to hunt down the Somali pirates and keep the shipping lanes safe.
May I suggest that if you have a problem with this country, get your passport in order and emigrate to another country, where you aren't paranoid of the government.
Good luck with that.
OK, I will try to explain this in terms you might understand. Ever play the game "Don't Break the Ice"? If you haven't, go out and buy it after you get your check on the 1st of the month. Then you will understand the physics behind the collapse.
Asbestos is completely safe until it becomes friable. When asbestos becomes friable, building maintenance has two options. The first is abatement, which is expensive. Abatement involves removing the asbestos while keeping the release of fiber down to 10ppm. Then bagging and tagging all ACM (asbestos containing material). The second is encapsulating the asbestos, which is fairly cheap. Encapsulating is bonding the asbestos fiber to a substrate. This can be done with water (temporarily), epoxy or paint.
So you are saying that the owners and the government killed thousands of people and destroyed the buildings,just so they wouldn't have to paint them?
Women and children are safe over in Iraq. Did you know that our military are not allow to fire in the presence of women and children? Yet Iraqi women and children go and get the ammunition for the people shooting at our military? Yes, they shoot at our military when our military is not allow to fire back. How messed up is that? I say fire at will. If the Iraqi women and children are dumb enough to do it then what ever happens to them is their fault. Why should our women and men be killed because of this?
So, if one asks questions or raises doubts about what our government is doing, we should emigrate?
Perhaps, I'll just continue to use my 1st ammendment rights and continue to ask questions about this present administration and past administrations.
Your'e son chose to do what he does. It wasn't but 4o years ago, many young men did not have the choice to fight big corporate wars.
Wow, what a clever arguement you have there.
Here's a conspiracy theory for you.
19 guys were able to completly baffle the CIA, NSA, FBI, Israeli Mossad and British MI5 and MI6, to a point where they hijacked planes with box cutters and were able, with little to know flying experience, (the hijacker of flight 77 that flew into the Pentagon was not even allowed to rent a Cessna 172 because his flying skills were called, "shoddy" by his instructor but was supposedly able to make a 330 degree maneuver at 600 MPH) slam into 3 buildings and kill all those people under the guidance of a giant Arab in a cave with a laptop.
Here's more conspiracy for you.
The 1st time in world history that any iron framed building collapsed by collision and fire happened on 9/11. That day 3 buildings fell on their own footprint at free fall pace. The 2 WTC buildings fell at right around 15 seconds. Building 7, which by the way housed the SEC and the 2nd biggest spook offices in the world next to Langley and FBI offices, fell in 7 seconds.
Here's Isaac Newton's formula on his law's of motion, Time squared = (distance x 2)/gravity.
You can check out the math for yourself.
Firefighters who were interviewed, reported molten steel, "...like you would see in a foundry...it was like lava..." and despite rain storms, fire retardants and constant water being poured into the sight, the fires were not completly put out until mid December of 2001.
It is now confirmed, by architects and engineers for 9/11 truth, which now number in the thousands, that thermite residue has been found in the dust.
As far as weather control goes, they have been seeding clouds for years.
It is called the HAARPS project.
In the 70's former Secretary of State, Zbigniew Brzizinski wrote in his book, "Between Two Ages", and I quote, "Technology will make available, to the leaders of major nations, techniques for making secret warfare, of which only bare minimum of the security forces need be appraised...Techniques of weather modification could be employed to produce prolonged periods of drought or storm."
In the summer Olympics in China, the Chinese government garaunteed there would be no rain for the opening and closing ceremonies.
Mark Filterman a former French army officer describes how the U.S. and Russia have already mastered the techniques of "weather wars" in which both countries can unleash sudden climate changes such as hurricanes and drought and also direct directions and intesity since the 1980's. HAARPS uses the technique of electro low frequency radio waves, ELF to manipulate weather.
I'm very much amused by the so called "great Americans" that Hannity claims to be and labels others as, (as long as you don't rock the boat with truth), biggest arguement is, "Your stupid and an idiot."
Okay, it's getting late. I must get my dumb, redneck butt back to work tuning my banjo.
Hello Ron,
Am I to assume that you actually believe the United States government was behind the 9/11 terrorist attack?
First of all 19 people didn’t baffle anyone. Security wasn’t as tight as it is these days and therefore foreign travelers boarded four different aircraft with a plan of inflicting terror. In that era it wasn’t illegal to carry a knife on board a plane, much less box cutters.
Second, qualified airline pilots got the aircraft off the ground and in flight. Once airborne, maintaining flight and simple maneuvering and following navigation would allow a person to drive a plane and park it in your garage. Any person with basic flight skills could accomplish the job. A “giant Arab in a cave with a laptop” is an assumption you are making. Once the plan is developed and put into motion there is no assistance needed from the ground.
I don’t know if you have ever had the opportunity to see the after effects of a plane crash but contrary to what you might assume, the damage is devastating. A jumbo jet with an almost full load of fuel that crashes into a building is going to explode and burn with intense heat. Materials that make up the construction of the aircraft along with materials within the building will also fuel the destruction. Your “Thermite Reaction” and residue could certainly be contributed to the crash and heat from the burning fuel. All the materials needed for the thermite reaction are actual materials from aircraft manufacturing components. Many other materials were available within the building too.
As for the collapse of the buildings – have you ever heard of the domino effect? This action doesn’t require the need of any special mathematics or break any law of physics. Once the collapse began, it continued. Just like when dominos topple over onto each other until all have fell.
Lastly: HAARPS, (High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program). There is an actual site in Alaska. Not along ago Jessie “The Body” Ventura did his first TV show called Conspiracy Theory on the subject of HAARP or bouncing radio waves off the ionosphere for the purpose of weather control and mind control, along with other topics for the conspiracy. These sci-fi spin-offs may exist but they were not the intention of HAARP. Until they are proven I guess they will have to remain a conspiracy theory to stimulate the simple minds. No pun intended.
In closing, remember to wear a hat and keep the sun off your neck and please continue tuning your banjo. I’d love to catch your show someday.
Is this the real Einetein? Hell dude you're so smart you defeated the act of dieing or at least staying dead.
Oh, wait ok I get it. You're calling someone out for not using a name yet you're doing the same thing...I get it.
Anyways, I will be glad to debate with anyone here on why I believe...strike that....why I know our government arraigned the attacks that day. I created an email just for it, if the moderators allow this through: 4bvilleblog@gmail.com
Please don't simply reply "You're an idiot" or "If you don't like the country get out" Thats the typical response that the media you watch wants you to reply with.
You are a waste of breath. I really dont care what you think and you can have all of the theroys you want. You still have not proven a single thing. Thank God most of America doesnt feel the same way. Do you and Rosie Odonell hang out or do you believe the BS from M. Moore....
As far as Katrina, it was announced for weeks that people needed to leave. They had busses everywhere that were free. People did not pay attention to those warnings did they? They chose to stay. That was their own fault and stupidy.
So because I question our government, not only should I leave, but that means I'm also too much of a coward to fight for the very same country?
I served two stays over there. I watched friends loose arms, legs, faces, and some even loose their life. Don't type anything you know nothing about. Yes I question the government. When you are fighting for something that you know is wrong, yet have no choice but to do it, you are allowed to ask questions.
It was my decision to sign up. I signed up for the Army three weeks after 9/11. I've served my time. I signed up before my eyes were open to the lying country that I fought for. You know what though? I'd do it again. Not because I believe in the lie we are fighting for, but because the spineless cowards that sign on to this blog and dare question the government, or even refuse to believe the very facts that are in front of them; they still need protection.
Right now we are fighting the wrong enemy. One day Americans will resort back to what this country was founded on. Back when the REAL Tea Party was more that some fat slobs sitting in their lawn chairs bitching about pieces of information they are feed through Fox News.
When this day comes I'll still be ready. I'll fight again. This time I'll fight for the correct reason.
Well I for one appreciate your service. And regardless of how you feel about the reasons this country and it's administration choose to go into battle, you did a very brave thing. You're much more brave than I, and so is my DAUGHTER, who is serving aboard a destroyer.
I was a teenager when the Vietnam whatever-that-was ended. I'm still embarrassed by the way the returning service personnel were greeted.
For those who served during that era, my thanks for your bravery.
I read your post. Although you are certainly entitled to your own opinion; my opinion of you doesn’t amount to much (yet). I’ve spent a lifetime serving this country and I’ve seen many people get caught breaking the law and pay for it by reprimand and/or military separation, then see those same people blame the government for getting caught and administering disciplinary action against them. Many will continue out into the civilian world with a grudge on their shoulders preaching anti-American sediments; similar to the words you echo in your post.
I think it is a healthy thing to stand on your principals and not be afraid to speak your mind against policies or politics that you disagree with. However, I find your comments too vague. Perhaps you would like the opportunity to clarify some of your thoughts and regain some respect.
Two stays “over there”…… over where? Why did you leave the Army?
You are fighting for something that you know is wrong yet you have no choice? You have the option of being a conscientious objector and recognized as such by the government. You do not have the right to oppose if you are just tired and fed up and just don’t want to participate. But if you have religious reasons for example, your contributions would be allowed in non-combative areas or you could be discharged without any poor judgments placed on your discharge documents.
Why did you enlist? Was it the fact that America was attacked?
How were your eyes opened?
What lies were you fighting for?
What are the facts in front of us?
If we are fighting the wrong enemy, who is it we are fighting that is wrong? ... Why?
Who is the right enemy? ... Why?
Now if I may be allowed to point out a few details of your words. I am of the opinion that you are overly supportive of the president and a dying administration. Why: Because you echo the words, “spineless cowards that sign on to this blog and dare question the government” insinuating your opinion that anyone questioning this administration is the enemy. You continue to define your enemy as the “Tea Party” going so far as to label a description of their appearance. And finally you identify the propaganda fueling your enemy as “Fox News”. Therefore, I am of the opinion that anyone that doesn’t share your view of life and support what our government is attempting to become [socialist wallowing in debt, (my opinion)] is the enemy.
If these are correct assumptions and you are provoking a revolutionary movement to support these ideals, I’d bet that many of these “spineless cowards” you reference are prepared to accommodate you. However, you do have the chance to clarify the wrong assumptions I made. The mirror is hanging for your convenience.
Let's get back on subject here. Thank you to the Woodmen of the World for the recent flag at the FAC. I ride by the flag every day and I will think of the individuals who sacrifice their lives for Americans. All emergency response individuals that would do anything for someone else. Thank you also for this year's dedication to Britton. He is truly missed and loved by so many.He was an honorable firefighter, father, and friend.
GM,
Your questions are valid and I, for one, appreciate you respectfully questioning this man. No, I am not him. I am not attempting to speak for him. I am merely commenting on his and your post...and others' for that matter, as I feel I understand exactly what he is talking about.
The term "over there" is used by our current war vets, much like Vietnam vets used the term "the world" to refer to the U.S. It is a term describing being deployed.
Since you have spent a lifetime serving your country, (I assume you are a vet then?), you know the mentalitly of the soldier quickly goes from the mission to watching each other's backs. Not to do so let's your friends down and is dishonorable. Psychologically, you don't have a choice. It is equal to divorcing your woman. You may not be married to the cause, but you can't divorce or abandon the family.
The man explained to you why he enlisted. Like many others, he enlisted after 9/11 to defend his country against "the terroists". Many did. Pat Tillman gave up a football career for the same reason. Often during any national tragedy, (regardless of the country), there is a great amount of patriot fervor.
I don't know how he awakended, for me, I always had an innate feeling something was wrong for a long time. I'd notice the same news headlines in the papers, on t.v. Upon investigation, I found out many things, such as the media is owned by 5 major corporations that actually control just about all the adverstising, news, movies, magazines, radio and books we read.
As I posted earlier, commenting on another's post, I have many questions about 9/11. Do I think the U.S. Government did it? I don't know. I do know this. What we are presented and what "is" are two very different things.
I do believe the president does not control things. To paraphrase the late comedian Bill Hicks, "they take the newly elected in a room, show him the film of Kennedy getting shot and ask, any questions?" The true people in charge are globalists, wanting a one world government. Call me tin hat, crazy, whatever....I don't care. I have taken the time research for years, have read government documents, examined history and know I am right. George H.W. Bush, often spoke of a "The New World Order." There is a shadow government pulling the strings. Has not anyone wondered why politicians fight in front of the camera about policies, but once elected, said polices of the previous administration are not eliminated? It's like watching pro wrestling, they fight in front of the cameras and have dinner and drinks once the show is over.
I believe my thoughts make me a dissenter and a patriot. I am not a repeater and refuse to be duped by the alphabet networks who control what we see, hear and sadly but invariably, what we think. I don't run away from being called ignorant, stupid.....etc.
You have asked some valid questions which seem simple but are very complex.
The American people, and the world for that matter, have been lied to for a very long time.
I will quote Henry Kissinger, explaining how these globalists think of us..."Military men are dumb, stupid animals, to be used as pawns for foreign policy."
In President Eisnehower's farewell speech to America, he adamantly warned the citizens of the country being taken over by the "military industrial complex." It has happened.
I encourage anyone to google this speech and listen intently.
I can relate to a lot of what you said. Except for the 9/11 conspiracy theory. Very little of the conspiracy theorist's information adds up. The photographs that they use as proof are usually taken out of context or just plain unbelievable. My biggest question is WHY?
Now, don't get me wrong. Our guvment is very capable of doing some dirty $hit. Anyone that believes otherwise should read about Waco, Ruby Ridge and JFK.
Our guvment has become out of our control and has been taken over by special interest groups and large corporations. Does anyone believe that the U.S would have helped Kuwait if there had been no oil there? (first gulf war) Does anyone believe this health care bill would have gotten passed if the labor unions did not want it? The people that call themselves "Democrat" or "Republican" only show that they are incapable of thinking for themselves.
Hello Gary M,
No, I don't think the U.S. government had anything to do with it...it's shadow government is quite capable of doing it by itself.
I shouldn't have to explain shadow government or COG to a long time DOD guy like yourself.
And the Bin Ladin in a cave thing was the physop run pretty much just a few hours after the attack began. All you heard on every station was Bin Ladin. Not just a few days later, you see images of the towers falling with Bin Laden walking with a stick down a rocky hill, or with an entourage of masked body guards surrounding him.
I guess I shouldn't have tried to be so facetious in my post.
Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer, while working for Project Able Danger indentfied Atta, and several others as terror suspects 1 year before 9/11. He had 3 different meetings with FBI scheduled and cancelled over this subject and then told to stand down. Those are not my words but his. He testified before the 9/11 commission about this. His testimony was left out of the report. Later, his security clearance was yanked. As of today, the Pentagon is trying to prevent the now retired Col. from publishing a book on what he knew.
No sir, I never have seen a plane crash up close thank God. I assume it truly is horrific.
Your thermite residue comment certainly is plausible accept we now know there was more than residue that was found. There is now mainstream reports of unignited thermite particles. Again, you being DOD for so long, should know that jet fuel burns at a relative low temp and those fireballs we saw outside the buildings as the planes hit was most of the fuel igniting and burning off in the atmosphere. True, there was increased temps due to fire, but not nearly enough to melt and deform structured steel.
Your comments fall in line with the NIST report which omitted many things and Popular Mechanics analysis. I have heard of the domino principle, but in this case, it does not apply. If the top floors collapsed on their own, due to damaged structured steel, it still wouldn't have fallen in it's own footprint at nearly free fall pace. It would have swayed, cracked, fell to the side, into other buildings etc. That is just fact proven by many architects and engineers throughout the world.
Finally, I understand HAARPS may have not been invented for weaponry...neither was laser, electricity, the combustible engine and splitting the atom. But they find a way to weaponize these things.
Other things that make me, and many others want to have another investigation into what really happened...
Atta attended and graduated from the International Officers School, Maxwell Air Base, Alabama.
Al-Omari attended the aerospace Medical school at Brooks Air Base Texas
Al-Ghambi attended the Defense Language Institute at the Presdio in Monterey
2 other hijackers rented an apartment from and lived with a known FBI informant and still 3 others listed, for drivers licence and car registration, the Naval Air Station in Pensecola for driver's licence and car registration purposes.
I'm sure COG has an explanation for that though.
I won't even borrow money from my mama when i'm broke but our President thinks it's alright to borrow billions from the Chinese? Our founding fathers would roll over in their graves if they could see the sad state our country is in today. We better start speaking the language since China now own our butts!
What will we do when China wants to collect on this debt? Also China has gotten the mining rights to one of the largest copper deposits in the world...Afghanistan
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I would imagine that those responsible for the attack that day on the United States felt similar to Japanese Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto after the attack on Pearl Harbor when afterwards he said something to the effect of, “I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve”. Yes they did again on 9/11! But isn’t it truly despicable how quick the American people can go back in to slumber land. You can bet everything the own now or will own in the future that another attack is on the drawing board. Eventually it will happen. Perhaps you will not be there when in does
I salute you President George Bush. Thank you for protecting our country.
I'll give you the opening you are looking for you ignorant piece of
Cover up for what?
Now, I know what really happened that day. Now, I as I sit here I feel that same hatred. Not for the middle east and their "weapons of mass destruction" but for our government. The same government that attacked us that day. I'll never forget the day that I sat in school and watched American people be attacked by the American government.
If you blame it on Bush, you may as well blame it on Clinton too. Didn't he have an opportunity to take out Bin Laden after the bombing of the USS Cole or the US embassay (forgot which country in Africa)?
If you blame it on Clinton, shouldn't you pass the buck down to "Daddy" Bush and Reagan? The US did train Bin Laden to fight in order to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan.
But if you blame them, can't you go back and blame Hitler? Had we not fought in WWII, perhaps the Cold War wouldn't have started.
See, it's really Hitler's fault. (As absurd as this is, at least I attempt to offer some logic rather than spouting what I hear from the TV.)
9/11 should remind us to come together as a nation...all Americans (whether Christian or not).
are you on a ventilator?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYm1TH23e9E&feature=related
Heck.....you don't even know your name. If you do, you lack the balls to say it. You are dazed and confused. No help for you.
And to 6.1.1
At some point people have to take responsibility for themselves. If you prop your butt on a hot stove are you going to move it or wait for someone to tell you to then wait for assistance. You people have got to be the biggest idiots in the world.
And to 6.2.1
Are you an engineer. I didn't think so. I knew you weren't. Because you are a moron.
I really didn't think people could be this stupid until they started comments on this site.
We are wasting our energy for we are trying to communicate with the brain dead. Good effort though. Rather than get your blood in a boil....just ignore them. One good bit of advice from me to you is that you can't argue with an idiot.
The flight attendants got silent, the pilot was silent, and the airport was silent when we landed. On a TV in a lounge in the Charleston airport, we learned what had happenened.
We ended up spending the day in Charleston and then driving our rental car back to Atlanta.
My child is currently in the Gulf of Aden, on a mission to hunt down the Somali pirates and keep the shipping lanes safe.
May I suggest that if you have a problem with this country, get your passport in order and emigrate to another country, where you aren't paranoid of the government.
Good luck with that.
So you are saying that the owners and the government killed thousands of people and destroyed the buildings,just so they wouldn't have to paint them?
Perhaps, I'll just continue to use my 1st ammendment rights and continue to ask questions about this present administration and past administrations.
Your'e son chose to do what he does. It wasn't but 4o years ago, many young men did not have the choice to fight big corporate wars.
Here's a conspiracy theory for you.
19 guys were able to completly baffle the CIA, NSA, FBI, Israeli Mossad and British MI5 and MI6, to a point where they hijacked planes with box cutters and were able, with little to know flying experience, (the hijacker of flight 77 that flew into the Pentagon was not even allowed to rent a Cessna 172 because his flying skills were called, "shoddy" by his instructor but was supposedly able to make a 330 degree maneuver at 600 MPH) slam into 3 buildings and kill all those people under the guidance of a giant Arab in a cave with a laptop.
Here's more conspiracy for you.
The 1st time in world history that any iron framed building collapsed by collision and fire happened on 9/11. That day 3 buildings fell on their own footprint at free fall pace. The 2 WTC buildings fell at right around 15 seconds. Building 7, which by the way housed the SEC and the 2nd biggest spook offices in the world next to Langley and FBI offices, fell in 7 seconds.
Here's Isaac Newton's formula on his law's of motion, Time squared = (distance x 2)/gravity.
You can check out the math for yourself.
Firefighters who were interviewed, reported molten steel, "...like you would see in a foundry...it was like lava..." and despite rain storms, fire retardants and constant water being poured into the sight, the fires were not completly put out until mid December of 2001.
It is now confirmed, by architects and engineers for 9/11 truth, which now number in the thousands, that thermite residue has been found in the dust.
As far as weather control goes, they have been seeding clouds for years.
It is called the HAARPS project.
In the 70's former Secretary of State, Zbigniew Brzizinski wrote in his book, "Between Two Ages", and I quote, "Technology will make available, to the leaders of major nations, techniques for making secret warfare, of which only bare minimum of the security forces need be appraised...Techniques of weather modification could be employed to produce prolonged periods of drought or storm."
In the summer Olympics in China, the Chinese government garaunteed there would be no rain for the opening and closing ceremonies.
Mark Filterman a former French army officer describes how the U.S. and Russia have already mastered the techniques of "weather wars" in which both countries can unleash sudden climate changes such as hurricanes and drought and also direct directions and intesity since the 1980's. HAARPS uses the technique of electro low frequency radio waves, ELF to manipulate weather.
I'm very much amused by the so called "great Americans" that Hannity claims to be and labels others as, (as long as you don't rock the boat with truth), biggest arguement is, "Your stupid and an idiot."
Okay, it's getting late. I must get my dumb, redneck butt back to work tuning my banjo.
Am I to assume that you actually believe the United States government was behind the 9/11 terrorist attack?
First of all 19 people didn’t baffle anyone. Security wasn’t as tight as it is these days and therefore foreign travelers boarded four different aircraft with a plan of inflicting terror. In that era it wasn’t illegal to carry a knife on board a plane, much less box cutters.
Second, qualified airline pilots got the aircraft off the ground and in flight. Once airborne, maintaining flight and simple maneuvering and following navigation would allow a person to drive a plane and park it in your garage. Any person with basic flight skills could accomplish the job. A “giant Arab in a cave with a laptop” is an assumption you are making. Once the plan is developed and put into motion there is no assistance needed from the ground.
I don’t know if you have ever had the opportunity to see the after effects of a plane crash but contrary to what you might assume, the damage is devastating. A jumbo jet with an almost full load of fuel that crashes into a building is going to explode and burn with intense heat. Materials that make up the construction of the aircraft along with materials within the building will also fuel the destruction. Your “Thermite Reaction” and residue could certainly be contributed to the crash and heat from the burning fuel. All the materials needed for the thermite reaction are actual materials from aircraft manufacturing components. Many other materials were available within the building too.
As for the collapse of the buildings – have you ever heard of the domino effect? This action doesn’t require the need of any special mathematics or break any law of physics. Once the collapse began, it continued. Just like when dominos topple over onto each other until all have fell.
Lastly: HAARPS, (High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program). There is an actual site in Alaska. Not along ago Jessie “The Body” Ventura did his first TV show called Conspiracy Theory on the subject of HAARP or bouncing radio waves off the ionosphere for the purpose of weather control and mind control, along with other topics for the conspiracy. These sci-fi spin-offs may exist but they were not the intention of HAARP. Until they are proven I guess they will have to remain a conspiracy theory to stimulate the simple minds. No pun intended.
In closing, remember to wear a hat and keep the sun off your neck and please continue tuning your banjo. I’d love to catch your show someday.
Oh, wait ok I get it. You're calling someone out for not using a name yet you're doing the same thing...I get it.
Anyways, I will be glad to debate with anyone here on why I believe...strike that....why I know our government arraigned the attacks that day. I created an email just for it, if the moderators allow this through: 4bvilleblog@gmail.com
Please don't simply reply "You're an idiot" or "If you don't like the country get out" Thats the typical response that the media you watch wants you to reply with.
I'll be waiting.
As far as Katrina, it was announced for weeks that people needed to leave. They had busses everywhere that were free. People did not pay attention to those warnings did they? They chose to stay. That was their own fault and stupidy.
I served two stays over there. I watched friends loose arms, legs, faces, and some even loose their life. Don't type anything you know nothing about. Yes I question the government. When you are fighting for something that you know is wrong, yet have no choice but to do it, you are allowed to ask questions.
It was my decision to sign up. I signed up for the Army three weeks after 9/11. I've served my time. I signed up before my eyes were open to the lying country that I fought for. You know what though? I'd do it again. Not because I believe in the lie we are fighting for, but because the spineless cowards that sign on to this blog and dare question the government, or even refuse to believe the very facts that are in front of them; they still need protection.
Right now we are fighting the wrong enemy. One day Americans will resort back to what this country was founded on. Back when the REAL Tea Party was more that some fat slobs sitting in their lawn chairs bitching about pieces of information they are feed through Fox News.
When this day comes I'll still be ready. I'll fight again. This time I'll fight for the correct reason.
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I was a teenager when the Vietnam whatever-that-was ended. I'm still embarrassed by the way the returning service personnel were greeted.
For those who served during that era, my thanks for your bravery.
I think it is a healthy thing to stand on your principals and not be afraid to speak your mind against policies or politics that you disagree with. However, I find your comments too vague. Perhaps you would like the opportunity to clarify some of your thoughts and regain some respect.
Two stays “over there”…… over where? Why did you leave the Army?
You are fighting for something that you know is wrong yet you have no choice? You have the option of being a conscientious objector and recognized as such by the government. You do not have the right to oppose if you are just tired and fed up and just don’t want to participate. But if you have religious reasons for example, your contributions would be allowed in non-combative areas or you could be discharged without any poor judgments placed on your discharge documents.
Why did you enlist? Was it the fact that America was attacked?
How were your eyes opened?
What lies were you fighting for?
What are the facts in front of us?
If we are fighting the wrong enemy, who is it we are fighting that is wrong? ... Why?
Who is the right enemy? ... Why?
Now if I may be allowed to point out a few details of your words. I am of the opinion that you are overly supportive of the president and a dying administration. Why: Because you echo the words, “spineless cowards that sign on to this blog and dare question the government” insinuating your opinion that anyone questioning this administration is the enemy. You continue to define your enemy as the “Tea Party” going so far as to label a description of their appearance. And finally you identify the propaganda fueling your enemy as “Fox News”. Therefore, I am of the opinion that anyone that doesn’t share your view of life and support what our government is attempting to become [socialist wallowing in debt, (my opinion)] is the enemy.
If these are correct assumptions and you are provoking a revolutionary movement to support these ideals, I’d bet that many of these “spineless cowards” you reference are prepared to accommodate you. However, you do have the chance to clarify the wrong assumptions I made. The mirror is hanging for your convenience.
Your questions are valid and I, for one, appreciate you respectfully questioning this man. No, I am not him. I am not attempting to speak for him. I am merely commenting on his and your post...and others' for that matter, as I feel I understand exactly what he is talking about.
The term "over there" is used by our current war vets, much like Vietnam vets used the term "the world" to refer to the U.S. It is a term describing being deployed.
Since you have spent a lifetime serving your country, (I assume you are a vet then?), you know the mentalitly of the soldier quickly goes from the mission to watching each other's backs. Not to do so let's your friends down and is dishonorable. Psychologically, you don't have a choice. It is equal to divorcing your woman. You may not be married to the cause, but you can't divorce or abandon the family.
The man explained to you why he enlisted. Like many others, he enlisted after 9/11 to defend his country against "the terroists". Many did. Pat Tillman gave up a football career for the same reason. Often during any national tragedy, (regardless of the country), there is a great amount of patriot fervor.
I don't know how he awakended, for me, I always had an innate feeling something was wrong for a long time. I'd notice the same news headlines in the papers, on t.v. Upon investigation, I found out many things, such as the media is owned by 5 major corporations that actually control just about all the adverstising, news, movies, magazines, radio and books we read.
As I posted earlier, commenting on another's post, I have many questions about 9/11. Do I think the U.S. Government did it? I don't know. I do know this. What we are presented and what "is" are two very different things.
I do believe the president does not control things. To paraphrase the late comedian Bill Hicks, "they take the newly elected in a room, show him the film of Kennedy getting shot and ask, any questions?" The true people in charge are globalists, wanting a one world government. Call me tin hat, crazy, whatever....I don't care. I have taken the time research for years, have read government documents, examined history and know I am right. George H.W. Bush, often spoke of a "The New World Order." There is a shadow government pulling the strings. Has not anyone wondered why politicians fight in front of the camera about policies, but once elected, said polices of the previous administration are not eliminated? It's like watching pro wrestling, they fight in front of the cameras and have dinner and drinks once the show is over.
I believe my thoughts make me a dissenter and a patriot. I am not a repeater and refuse to be duped by the alphabet networks who control what we see, hear and sadly but invariably, what we think. I don't run away from being called ignorant, stupid.....etc.
You have asked some valid questions which seem simple but are very complex.
The American people, and the world for that matter, have been lied to for a very long time.
I will quote Henry Kissinger, explaining how these globalists think of us..."Military men are dumb, stupid animals, to be used as pawns for foreign policy."
In President Eisnehower's farewell speech to America, he adamantly warned the citizens of the country being taken over by the "military industrial complex." It has happened.
I encourage anyone to google this speech and listen intently.
Now, don't get me wrong. Our guvment is very capable of doing some dirty $hit. Anyone that believes otherwise should read about Waco, Ruby Ridge and JFK.
Our guvment has become out of our control and has been taken over by special interest groups and large corporations. Does anyone believe that the U.S would have helped Kuwait if there had been no oil there? (first gulf war) Does anyone believe this health care bill would have gotten passed if the labor unions did not want it? The people that call themselves "Democrat" or "Republican" only show that they are incapable of thinking for themselves.
No, I don't think the U.S. government had anything to do with it...it's shadow government is quite capable of doing it by itself.
I shouldn't have to explain shadow government or COG to a long time DOD guy like yourself.
And the Bin Ladin in a cave thing was the physop run pretty much just a few hours after the attack began. All you heard on every station was Bin Ladin. Not just a few days later, you see images of the towers falling with Bin Laden walking with a stick down a rocky hill, or with an entourage of masked body guards surrounding him.
I guess I shouldn't have tried to be so facetious in my post.
Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer, while working for Project Able Danger indentfied Atta, and several others as terror suspects 1 year before 9/11. He had 3 different meetings with FBI scheduled and cancelled over this subject and then told to stand down. Those are not my words but his. He testified before the 9/11 commission about this. His testimony was left out of the report. Later, his security clearance was yanked. As of today, the Pentagon is trying to prevent the now retired Col. from publishing a book on what he knew.
No sir, I never have seen a plane crash up close thank God. I assume it truly is horrific.
Your thermite residue comment certainly is plausible accept we now know there was more than residue that was found. There is now mainstream reports of unignited thermite particles. Again, you being DOD for so long, should know that jet fuel burns at a relative low temp and those fireballs we saw outside the buildings as the planes hit was most of the fuel igniting and burning off in the atmosphere. True, there was increased temps due to fire, but not nearly enough to melt and deform structured steel.
Your comments fall in line with the NIST report which omitted many things and Popular Mechanics analysis. I have heard of the domino principle, but in this case, it does not apply. If the top floors collapsed on their own, due to damaged structured steel, it still wouldn't have fallen in it's own footprint at nearly free fall pace. It would have swayed, cracked, fell to the side, into other buildings etc. That is just fact proven by many architects and engineers throughout the world.
Finally, I understand HAARPS may have not been invented for weaponry...neither was laser, electricity, the combustible engine and splitting the atom. But they find a way to weaponize these things.
Other things that make me, and many others want to have another investigation into what really happened...
Atta attended and graduated from the International Officers School, Maxwell Air Base, Alabama.
Al-Omari attended the aerospace Medical school at Brooks Air Base Texas
Al-Ghambi attended the Defense Language Institute at the Presdio in Monterey
2 other hijackers rented an apartment from and lived with a known FBI informant and still 3 others listed, for drivers licence and car registration, the Naval Air Station in Pensecola for driver's licence and car registration purposes.
I'm sure COG has an explanation for that though.